Cdl ?

[voltdr]

Bob,
I have been preparing for my CDL here in TX. After talking with the State Troopers, here are some of my findings.
1. In TX, your are required to have a CDL class B, for any single vehicle (no trailer) if the GVW is over 26,001#. even an RV.
2. If the combination of vehicles (truck and trailer) is rated over 26,001# then you are required a CDL class A.
3. If the trailer is over 10,000# you are required a CDL class A.
4. If the nature of what you are doing involves "commerce" you are required a CDL class A.
5. They define commerce as being any time you are being compensated for what you are doing. This is where we, as racers, get caught in the system because we race for money.
6. In TX, you can take your skills test in any vehicle that meets the criteria in item #2 above, as needing a CDL class A.
Hope this helps.
Dan

[Bob Verwold]

I'm still working on the book part.........LOL Harder than I thought.

Thanks for the input.

[Phillip marvetz]

And yes they do want you to have a DOT# also. Is your truck registered for the 38,000lbs total or more? If you get scaled they will want you licensed for more than your total weight.

[Bob Verwold]

[QUOTE=Phillip marvetz;309500]And yes they do want you to have a DOT# also. Is your truck registered for the 38,000lbs total or more? If you get scaled they will want you licensed for more than your total weight.

Your talking about the truck tags being 38,000 or more ? I took a weight slip for the truck and trailer to the DMV when I had it registered and it was 25,650 and I have tags for 26,000. But the GVW stickers are a total of 38,000 so what do ya go by..........This is where she told me I did NOT need a CDL .

I'm just about to the point that I should have stayed with my 24' and the dually............

[C and W Racing]

[QUOTE=voltdr;309481]Bob,
I5. They define commerce as being any time you are being compensated for what you are doing. This is where we, as racers, get caught in the system because we race for money.

The problem comes from if you claim the expences for tax purposes. If you don't claim expences, but show winnings as income and pay taxes on it, then there is no problem
Chuck

[Phillip marvetz]

25,650 is pretty close to the CDL limit. A full tank of fuel, A cooler full of goodies, A passenger and the dog and you could be in trouble. How often do you drive by a scale house and how lucky do you feel?

[voltdr]

[QUOTE=C and W Racing;309540]

Originally Posted by voltdr

Bob,
I5. They define commerce as being any time you are being compensated for what you are doing. This is where we, as racers, get caught in the system because we race for money.

The problem comes from if you claim the expences for tax purposes. If you don't claim expences, but show winnings as income and pay taxes on it, then there is no problem
Chuck

Here is the real problem. How do you prove that on the side of the road, and the officer is telling you to park your rig until a licensed CDL-A driver arrives.

[BlueOval Ralph]

or if the unit Truck and or trailer are in the name of a bussiness

[Tom Moock]

Bob Verwold, They go by the GVW listed weight for the vehicles; truck and trailer, not what you have them license for, if over 26,000 you need CDL and log book, med. card, dot #, UCR # 300.00 fine. I got ticket in Ok. in my one ton truck for not stopping in scale, truck licensed for 10,000 pounds, sign showed truck over 10,000 pounds must weight but truck GVW is 11,800 pounds. Tom

[MYRONARL1119]

Bob, I can tell u about Ohio as I was involved in transportation fora living, and also as a racer. I don't know what the clerk told you, but according to PUCO (the folks that actually will pull raaandom, as well as scale insspections in Ohio)...The point as to whether you need a CDL is taking the combined Weight capacity of the truck itself and the weight allowed of your trailer aand its cargo. If you are using a "Dually" aand a trailer of aany size at all...you will be over 26,000 GVW. The only ssure way around Ohio is to use a non aair brake trailer....and not use a truck. And a good example of that is a Chevy or GMC Suburban. They are actually built on a truck type chassis, but actually tagged as a car or "station wagon". Was aactually told at one time to "stay off my scales" ...it is for trucks. Just my experience. And if you do go the CDL route, u will need a medical card, DOT no on your truck....aand must maaintain hours of service.e.g. LOG BOOK.