Rules for Class Championship on NHRA

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by novassdude

I will have to assume that you are thinking of eliminations. Because having a dial in race for class is the stuppidest thing I have ever heard. If that is what you are actually suggesting you really need to find a different class to race. Stock and Superstock are supposed to be a performance based class lets try and leave a little bit of that. There are bracket races all over the world where you can go and dial in all you want.

There ya go!

[Mike Carr]

Shoe polish has no buisness being mentioned with Class Eliminations.

But, I do understand Scott's point. A few classes (SS/AH 9.30 and SS/AM 9.00 come to mind) have pretty stiff Indexes. Making it pretty dificult for cars in those cars to have much of a chance in a Class Combo.

My suggestion would be to bring the tough indexes in-line with the others. Maybe, say, 9.50 for SS/AH and 9.25 for SS/AM.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Mike Carr

Shoe polish has no buisness being mentioned with Class Eliminations.

But, I do understand Scott's point. A few classes (SS/AH 9.30 and SS/AM 9.00 come to mind) have pretty stiff Indexes. Making it pretty dificult for cars in those cars to have much of a chance in a Class Combo.

My suggestion would be to bring the tough indexes in-line with the others. Maybe, say, 9.50 for SS/AH and 9.25 for SS/AM.

On the contrary. The correct way to do that is to bring all the soft indexes and soft combinations in line with those that have been properly factored and indexed.

We don't need to make it possible for everyone to run 1.5 or more under the index. Instead, we need to make it difficult for anyone to run 1.2 under their index.

[Andrew Hill]

Originally Posted by Mike Carr

Shoe polish has no buisness being mentioned with Class Eliminations.

But, I do understand Scott's point. A few classes (SS/AH 9.30 and SS/AM 9.00 come to mind) have pretty stiff Indexes. Making it pretty dificult for cars in those cars to have much of a chance in a Class Combo.

My suggestion would be to bring the tough indexes in-line with the others. Maybe, say, 9.50 for SS/AH and 9.25 for SS/AM.

Hemi cars have been 8 teens, which would be 1.30+ under that index, and there are a lot of A/SM(A) cars that are legal for SS/AM that have run well into the 7's. I know of one A/SM that has run 7.60s. The indexes that need changing are some of the modified classes, more specifically some of the non V8 ones, that are really soft.

[Mike Carr]

Alan/Andrew, I'd think most of the Indexes currently are pretty fair. SS/Mod classes lose Index when the AHFS is flagged. SS/BM went from 9.65 to 9.50 from a hit at Indy a few years back (James Caro), then took the three tenths (that everybody received) hit, down to the current 9.20. Same with SS/AM. Scott Gove ran 7.99 at the Dutch in great air a few years ago, lowering the Index, via AHFS, from 9.45 to 9.30, then the .3 reduction down to 9.00. Same with SS/AH, a .15 hit via AHFS, then .3 down to the current 9.30. The quickest SS/AH at Indy last year was 8.42 by CW Jr, only -.87 and change. I think SS/AM was empty the last two years at Indy (except maybe John Clegg), for fear a racer in that class wouldn't qualify against a stiff Index.

Point being, Unless you get killer, mineshaft air, a current SS/AM, SS/BM, SS/AH, etc aren't going to run 1 second under, while many other combinations.classes can with ease. If only, say, 5-10 classes out of the near 140 within Stock and S/S are tough Indexes, it would reason to bring those 10 classes up, not bring the other 130 down.

[Andrew Hill]

Originally Posted by Salty Dog

I didn't know A/SM was the same as SS/AM. Isn't one Competition Eliminator and one is Superstock?

They have the exact same rules, other than the automatic weight break of 250 lbs in comp and 5% in SS. Scott Hedlund's A/SM which went 7.69 @ over 176 would be legal in SS/AM. There are a lot of superstock modified classes with rules identical or very close to those in comp.

[Charley Downing]

Andrew that is a $125,000 car with an $80,000 motor. I don't see to many SS racer running out to build one for SS/AM. For $4,000 of class money.