2012 Dodge Dart

[tommy d]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!

[denbreeden]

V-10 for 2014.

Dennis Breeden
A/SA

[John Dinkel]

Jeff I want one with a 6.4.Will it make AA/SA?

[hemidup]

If anyone can make these things go faster, It'll be Charlie Blossom and crew.

[Todd Boyer]

As owner of an original '69 Dart Swinger 340 4-speed, that car is not deserving of the name. At least they didn't call it a "Swinger" !!!! (wouldn't work in this day and age anyway).
It looks much more like a Neon - and that's not a bad thing at all Art...

[KRatcliff]

[denny harvey]

uh...i guess this lets gm off the hook for the above post for fugly new car....

[Scott Bechler]

Originally Posted by Todd Boyer

As owner of an original '69 Dart Swinger 340 4-speed, that car is not deserving of the name.

In that case, the first generation of compact Darts ('63-66) were not deserving of the name either. '63 top engine 225 - 145 gross horsepower or about 115 by today's net ratings. '64 273 - 180 gross hp. '65 273 4bbl - 235 gross hp.

Remeber "Dart" has always meant economy car. 184 net hp for the new 2.4L is pretty good for an economy car. Now if they decide to make a turbo version of the 2.4 in the future, 275-300 hp stock is a real possibility. With much more power with the "turn of a screw" as people like to tell Art.

I do hate the fact that it is a foreign chassis with the Dart name.

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Scott Bechler

In that case, the first generation of compact Darts ('63-66) were not deserving of the name either. '63 top engine 225 - 145 gross horsepower or about 115 by today's net ratings. '64 273 - 180 gross hp. '65 273 4bbl - 235 gross hp.

Remeber "Dart" has always meant economy car. 184 net hp for the new 2.4L is pretty good for an economy car. Now if they decide to make a turbo version of the 2.4 in the future, 275-300 hp stock is a real possibility. With much more power with the "turn of a screw" as people like to tell Art.

I do hate the fact that it is a foreign chassis with the Dart name.

The original Darts were much more deserving of the name, because they were compact versions of the much beloved Coronets (as well as ALL-AMERICAN!!!), but your last sentence touched on why I also hate this...a great name for a great (AMERICAN) compact car, now adorns an import derived car!

I'm glad that at least Mustang loyalist protested (in large numbers), Fords warped minded intention of placing that beloved name on what eventually became the Probe! I wish Nova owners would've done the same thing....

[Todd Boyer]

Originally Posted by Scott Bechler

In that case, the first generation of compact Darts ('63-66) were not deserving of the name either. '63 top engine 225 - 145 gross horsepower or about 115 by today's net ratings. '64 273 - 180 gross hp. '65 273 4bbl - 235 gross hp.

Remeber "Dart" has always meant economy car. 184 net hp for the new 2.4L is pretty good for an economy car. Now if they decide to make a turbo version of the 2.4 in the future, 275-300 hp stock is a real possibility. With much more power with the "turn of a screw" as people like to tell Art.

I do hate the fact that it is a foreign chassis with the Dart name.

At least the early '60s Darts were cool (in their own way - Exner cool ???) and didn't look like every other economy car on the road. They shoulda called this new thing something other than Dart.