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Old 12-16-2011, 08:20 AM   #1
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we all can win if we didnt think so we wouldnt show up but leaving last does have an advantage but that has never bothered me it is what it is and I know it going in but since it has changed to qualified fields the number of lower class cars seems to have fallen off
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Old 12-16-2011, 09:11 AM   #2
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but leaving last does have an advantage
1. I'd rather leave on a clean tree.
2. I don't want the distraction of the slow car passing through my field of vision behind the tree. I'll bet no one ever figured out why my Nova had that big bright obnoxious yellow stripe on it!
3. It does make it hard to dial in the wind with no power.
4. The slow cars are a lot fussier in changing air.
5. And last but not least, hope that they don't spray the whole track right in front of you.
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Old 12-16-2011, 10:31 AM   #3
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One issue with slower cars is everything affects you more than a fast car. It is all about percentages If an air change happens at the last minute both cars will lose say 2% in et. So a 10 second car will lose .2 where a 13 second car would lose .26 this is why you keep seeing faster and faster bracket cars.
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Old 12-16-2011, 10:45 AM   #4
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It's not too often we see a .2 difference in E.T. from run to run. My slower car is more consistent than my faster one.
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Old 12-16-2011, 11:06 AM   #5
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Michael Beard, you could run a bathtub backwards with wind power and cut a light and run your number.You don't count!!! (LOL)
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Old 12-16-2011, 11:16 AM   #6
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Michael Beard, you could run a bathtub backwards with wind power and cut a light and run your number.You don't count!!! (LOL)
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:12 PM   #7
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Friendy, if your faster car varies too much due to air density variations, it's likely too rich. Try leaning it to see if that improves.

Everything Billy listed is correct. I seldom leave last, and I like it that way. It's not so slow it's boring to drive, aerodynamic enough that it isn't too sensitive to wind, and it doesn't care if they spray the whole track in front of me. Just needs a decent driver. :-(
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:41 AM   #8
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Michael Beard, you could run a bathtub backwards with wind power and cut a light and run your number.You don't count!!! (LOL)
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Yes you do Michael, and you get my vote too! You and Jody Lang have been the banner bearers for the M-class and slower class (and fwd) cars. 2012 shall be great for both of you guys!!!
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Sure slow cars can win. It takes a different perspective of the whole racing scheme. The drivers who figure out how to make slow cars more than competitive and win frequently are dangerous in quicker cars. Most progress to the faster stuff,some stick around and always leave first. The slower cars are a huge challenge,but it`s extremely gratifying when you do well.
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One issue with slower cars is everything affects you more than a fast car. It is all about percentages If an air change happens at the last minute both cars will lose say 2% in et. So a 10 second car will lose .2 where a 13 second car would lose .26 this is why you keep seeing faster and faster bracket cars.

.2 seconds ?
Wow, if my slow bracket car varies by that much, it's not because of weather. .2 seconds is a bunch !

Mine might vary .02 seconds, maybe.
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