Pro tree

[X-TECH MAN]

You never heard so much complaining about the 5 tenths Pro tree as when we first started "Top Stock" many years ago. Usually its the ones who have never done it that complain the most. After the first Top Stock race at Norwalk, Ohio the racers decided it was the ONLY way to go on a heads up race. And these were races who raced on a sportsman tree all their lives such as Mike Keener, Paul Mecure, and many others driving sticks AND automatics. Many cut .001 to .005 lights on their first shot at the tree.

[69Cobra]

Exactly!!!!

Just think Tim. We are the future of Stock and Super Stock

[Tony Janes]

It will work in handicap racing also. This might get rid of the large amount or red lights in the eliminator.

[Paul Precht]

Back in the 70s I raced a 4/10ths pro tree at National on Long Island every Tuesday eve and a full tree at Hampton every Sunday, I definitely liked the pro tree better. The lights would have to be shielded from the opposing lane though to prevent one from leaving off the others light.

[TOSTO RACING]

I was just seeing what everyone thought personally there's nothing like standing on the starting line while two stick cars stage for a pro tree!

[69Cobra]

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Originally Posted by tosto racing

there's nothing like standing on the starting line while two stick cars stage for a pro tree!

[69Cobra]

In my opinion this would have to bring more spectators back to the sport.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Paul Precht

Back in the 70s I raced a 4/10ths pro tree at National on Long Island every Tuesday eve and a full tree at Hampton every Sunday, I definitely liked the pro tree better. The lights would have to be shielded from the opposing lane though to prevent one from leaving off the others light.

I believe the post was about HEADS UP "CLASS" runs for class. Not a handicap start.

[Jeff Lee]

I've raced both. As Michael Beard stated, it "dumbs down" the racers. Anybody with no skill can hammer down some pretty good RT's on a pro-tree. And yes, you will have fewer redlights.
But the skill set required for a full-tree is much greater. It separates the posers from the real racers. It gives the experienced full-tree racer an advantage over others. And that is the point and that is why you hear resistance.
Sorry...just the facts!

[Paul Precht]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

I believe the post was about HEADS UP "CLASS" runs for class. Not a handicap start.

Understood, I just threw that in because of the abuse of leaving off the other guys light with the 4/10ths at National. Many of the cars had 10" converters and didn't leave as hard as they do now so it was almost impossible without anticipating to redlight even when staging deep. If you were dialed in at 12.0 and your opponent at 12.05, you left off his light and that gave you an advantage that .he could do nothing about. Many of the racers didn't understand this or the staging deep tricks which made it much harder for them to win.