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Old 05-12-2011, 01:23 PM   #1
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I am pretty sure some of the older 9 second stockers have not had to have the 4B license, $500 worth of upgraded safety clothing and 8.50 certified cage.

I hope the rule enforcement is consistent to protect them as well as those of us with new cars

Our car was also thoroughly check at Vegas by the entire Tech crew


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Old 05-12-2011, 02:02 PM   #2
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I am pretty sure some of the older 9 second stockers have not had to have the 4B license, $500 worth of upgraded safety clothing and 8.50 certified cage.

I hope the rule enforcement is consistent to protect them as well as those of us with new cars

Our car was also thoroughly check at Vegas by the entire Tech crew


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I'm pretty sure you're wrong. With the advent of the AA class, the rules were fairly strictly enforced, several people have been told they either could not race, or if they went faster than 10.00 they'd be sent home. I agree that this was not the case before AA was created. But that was because 9 second passes were quite rare on the old 11.30 index. We've been checked for every piece required to run 9's, every time, and that includes the Open races, as well as National Events and LODRS races.
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All this controversy is what happens when the factories politic for grossly soft HP ratings for the cars (I suppose to guarantee their brand ends up in the winner's circle right off the bat), and NHRA goes for it. We would not have this debate going on if the cars had started in the right classes to begin with....
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I guess all the cars were in the right class to start?
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All this controversy is what happens when the factories politic for grossly soft HP ratings for the cars (I suppose to guarantee their brand ends up in the winner's circle right off the bat), and NHRA goes for it. We would not have this debate going on if the cars had started in the right classes to begin with....
Other than the Winternationals when the Cobra Jet's debuted, and with some breaks going his way, how many National and Divisional races have been contested and how many Cobra Jets and Drag Pacs have been in the winners circle? I'm not thinking very many. It's for the most part a bracket race and it looks to me like the vast majority of winners are in the older combo's. Class eliminations, you may have a point, but that has become a joke anyway. Even races that have class, the car count is down and half of what they do is a combo race.
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Other than the Winternationals when the Cobra Jet's debuted, and with some breaks going his way, how many National and Divisional races have been contested and how many Cobra Jets and Drag Pacs have been in the winners circle? I'm not thinking very many. It's for the most part a bracket race and it looks to me like the vast majority of winners are in the older combo's. Class eliminations, you may have a point, but that has become a joke anyway. Even races that have class, the car count is down and half of what they do is a combo race.
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But suppose you have to run one of these new under rated cars heads up in the first or second round. Your DEAD MEAT when that happens and you have NO CHANCE at winning the "bracket race".
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But suppose you have to run one of these new under rated cars heads up in the first or second round. Your DEAD MEAT when that happens and you have NO CHANCE at winning the "bracket race".
Not saying you don't have a point and I can see that happening. What I do see though is more and more of the new cars getting hit with hp and dont see a lot of heads up races in eliminations. What I had responded to though is the fact that these new cars aren't winning the races like was implied in the post I had responded to.
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Other than the Winternationals when the Cobra Jet's debuted, and with some breaks going his way, how many National and Divisional races have been contested and how many Cobra Jets and Drag Pacs have been in the winners circle? I'm not thinking very many. It's for the most part a bracket race and it looks to me like the vast majority of winners are in the older combo's. Class eliminations, you may have a point, but that has become a joke anyway. Even races that have class, the car count is down and half of what they do is a combo race.
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At least twice in recent history, two VERY good traditional cars with two very good drivers have had their clocks cleaned in heads up races with the new cars. Two guys who are proven winners, who were robbed of any chance to win by a bogus factor, in final eliminations.
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