Want to loose 3200 ugly pounds?

[Richard Grant]

I vote leave stock alone.

[Andys dad]

I hate to interupt but ours is not ugly and it weighs 3600

Jeff I just could not resist

You know I want seperate classes - or we would run A/SA at 3800

Hope Kevin turns it loose this weekend in Atlanta



:-) peace

[cutta]

Here's some food for thought for those concerned about the safety of stock cars on 9inch tires.

There is currently a new outlaw power adder class that is receiving tons of popularity called Outlaw 8.5. These cars run on 26x8.5 slicks and run well over a 140mph in the 1/8th with over 1500hp. To my surprise, I've yet to here of any catastrophic wrecks or incidents due to the small tire. Most stock cars down make anywhere near 1500HP and if these style cars with power adders can get safely down the track, one could reason that stock cars could and should be able do the same in a more safe manner since stockers are allowed a better slick than a 26x8.5. Yes I know I have no stake in the argument, but tire technology is light years from where it used to be and are much more safe than people realize.

10.5inch slicks have been well over 200mph

12inch slicks have been well over 240mph

there's plenty of room left before any stock car reaches the 9inch slicks safety threshold in my opinion.

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by cutta

Here's some food for thought for those concerned about the safety of stock cars on 9inch tires.

There is currently a new outlaw power adder class that is receiving tons of popularity called Outlaw 8.5. These cars run on 26x8.5 slicks and run well over a 140mph in the 1/8th with over 1500hp. To my surprise, I've yet to here of any catastrophic wrecks or incidents due to the small tire. Most stock cars down make anywhere near 1500HP and if these style cars with power adders can get safely down the track, one could reason that stock cars could and should be able do the same in a more safe manner since stockers are allowed a better slick than a 26x8.5. Yes I know I have no stake in the argument, but tire technology is light years from where it used to be and are much more safe than people realize.

10.5inch slicks have been well over 200mph

12inch slicks have been well over 240mph

there's plenty of room left before any stock car reaches the 9inch slicks safety threshold in my opinion.

so now we need to give these cars MSD 7531 boxes? Because that's what gets those cars down the track on that tires, with that much power. My best friend has a 275 drag radial mustang, so I di know what I am talking about here.

[Richard Grant]

Don't give Ford and Mopar any ideas. I am not sure they aren't already equiped with something similiar. But then it's "stock". I guess all the rest of the stock racers can just go bracket race and leave "stock" to the high dollar factory cars.

[Jeff Teuton]

The difference now is Ford and Mopar are on board. A vocal group wants the cars out of their class, and NHRA has said the racers need to support this if they want it to happen. Judging from the posts over the last year or so, I would say that is a good position. The system is sending them toward the proposed new classes as opposed to running very heavy cars. NHRA is not going to outlaw a car because it ran out of classes (the Ford that is there already recent decision). The 4 V8 Mopars have recieved 170 Hp in the last year. I don't know on the Fords, but they got a pretty good share also. I believe it was about two weeks ago during Houston National, Indy Points, and Boise Points there were 12 or 14 DP's racing. All were C or higher, and after that weekend they will be all B or higher, except for my lone Challenger with the 5.9. Rumor has a Bowtie with 1000 hp is out there and talking to NHRA. That is my take on the new classes. And in the days of old when the Muscle Cars were new remember all the heads up classes for the Mopars, Fords, Chevys. This weekend I think there is a Mopar show in Dallas with a Gen III Hemi Shootout. NMCA has a shootout on the horizon for the Mustangs, and as more new cars are sold, there will be more such events. I personally would like to see a heads up class seperate from Stock that would run Fri/Sat during events. All new cars A/FX, Super Duper Stock, or something.

[borninamopar]

Originally Posted by Richard Grant

Don't give Ford and Mopar any ideas. I am not sure they aren't already equiped with something similiar. But then it's "stock". I guess all the rest of the stock racers can just go bracket race and leave "stock" to the high dollar factory cars.

Uh, it is bracket racing, unless it's a heads up race.

[Richard Grant]

Exactly, that's the reason it's not bracket racing.

[Signman]

Originally Posted by cutta

Here's some food for thought for those concerned about the safety of stock cars on 9inch tires.

There is currently a new outlaw power adder class that is receiving tons of popularity called Outlaw 8.5. These cars run on 26x8.5 slicks and run well over a 140mph in the 1/8th with over 1500hp. To my surprise, I've yet to here of any catastrophic wrecks or incidents due to the small tire. Most stock cars down make anywhere near 1500HP and if these style cars with power adders can get safely down the track, one could reason that stock cars could and should be able do the same in a more safe manner since stockers are allowed a better slick than a 26x8.5. Yes I know I have no stake in the argument, but tire technology is light years from where it used to be and are much more safe than people realize.

10.5inch slicks have been well over 200mph

12inch slicks have been well over 240mph

there's plenty of room left before any stock car reaches the 9inch slicks safety threshold in my opinion.

There is a reason they run the 1/8th mile other than the amount of tracks available and the fans they generate at those smaller facilities. Gear them for the 1/4 mile and watch how easy it is to get down track.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by cutta

Here's some food for thought for those concerned about the safety of stock cars on 9inch tires.

There is currently a new outlaw power adder class that is receiving tons of popularity called Outlaw 8.5. These cars run on 26x8.5 slicks and run well over a 140mph in the 1/8th with over 1500hp. To my surprise, I've yet to here of any catastrophic wrecks or incidents due to the small tire. Most stock cars down make anywhere near 1500HP and if these style cars with power adders can get safely down the track, one could reason that stock cars could and should be able do the same in a more safe manner since stockers are allowed a better slick than a 26x8.5. Yes I know I have no stake in the argument, but tire technology is light years from where it used to be and are much more safe than people realize.

10.5inch slicks have been well over 200mph

12inch slicks have been well over 240mph

there's plenty of room left before any stock car reaches the 9inch slicks safety threshold in my opinion.

I've been watching the small tire cars for years. The rate of crashes compared to Stock Eliminator is astounding.

A lot of things appear safe, when everything goes well. The problem with racing is that fairly often, everything doesn't go well. just because you can get away with something for a while, doesn't mean it is relatively safe, nor does it mean that it is a good idea. The law of averages WILL eventually catch up to you, and the result usually is not pretty. I'd prefer not to be the one taken along for the ride when it catches up with whoever happens to be the next victim. I figure it'd cost well over $50K to replace any car we race, if we did all the work ourselves, closer to $100K if we farmed it out. The drivers are all married with families, those are a little more difficult to replace.

If we wanted to be racing the small tire outlaw classes, we'd build small tire outlaw cars. There's a reason we race Stock and Super Stock.