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Old 05-09-2011, 10:51 PM   #1
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Well Ed, let me tell you. We have been working out these stock and ss cars since l958. And we learned plenty. And we applied what we learned to these new cars. Matter of fact I was in touch with the factory before the financial trouble about these cars. No one was more surprised than me when they actually made the cars. A 68 Hemi Dart today would have a 4 link, aluminum heads, efi (which did not exist back the, and neither did this crap they call pump gas), a Jerico, a two disc clutch and all the stuff we now have. Would you expect the manufacturers to build an old technology car? Did you know that the average stock/ss efi motor makes about 10 hp less than a carb? A comp motor makes about 20 less. The adjustablity is what makes them work good. The workout time now is about 5% of the time from the 60's. The knowledge is out there. Sorta like an Apple IIE, still a good computer, does the same as the newest stuff, but not as efficient. I'm not sure what you are looking for, but its all I got. Progress is touch, and change is here. No going back.
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Old 05-09-2011, 10:59 PM   #2
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Well Ed, let me tell you. We have been working out these stock and ss cars since l958. And we learned plenty. And we applied what we learned to these new cars. Matter of fact I was in touch with the factory before the financial trouble about these cars. No one was more surprised than me when they actually made the cars. A 68 Hemi Dart today would have a 4 link, aluminum heads, efi (which did not exist back the, and neither did this crap they call pump gas), a Jerico, a two disc clutch and all the stuff we now have. Would you expect the manufacturers to build an old technology car? Did you know that the average stock/ss efi motor makes about 10 hp less than a carb? A comp motor makes about 20 less. The adjustablity is what makes them work good. The workout time now is about 5% of the time from the 60's. The knowledge is out there. Sorta like an Apple IIE, still a good computer, does the same as the newest stuff, but not as efficient. I'm not sure what you are looking for, but its all I got. Progress is touch, and change is here. No going back.
Jeff,I agree with what you said,but these new cars are way underfactored compared to the
Hemis,BBC and even the 335HP Cobra Jets.Do you agree with what Bo said about you
guys having at it in your own classes,away from the old combos?Sounds like a good start to re awakening S/SS in the eyes of the public.If the next generation were made in the spirit of the old cars,like mentioned previously,stripper showroom models you wouldn't have to mortgage your future on, we might see a resurgence in class racing.Wadda ya think?
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:00 PM   #3
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Jeff, interesting you mentioned the 68 Hemi Dart. Wasn't that car placed in Super Stock immediately? Which is the point everyone has been making from the beginning.
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:17 PM   #4
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Jeff, interesting you mentioned the 68 Hemi Dart. Wasn't that car placed in Super Stock immediately? Which is the point everyone has been making from the beginning.
I'll answer for Mr. Jeff, since ya'll got him stirred up...He's probably drinking a LaBatt and laughing at all this..The 68 Hemi Dart was built specifically to compete in the SS class. Not stock, but SS. Mr Jeff probably knows the history of stock and SS racing racing better than most racers on this forum..That family has been around before dirt. They had one of the first 68 Hemi Darts, along with Mr. Sid. I believe alot of ya'll are just jealous of what that family has accomplished. I'm proud to say they are some of my racer heros. They are legends in this sport,compared to most of ya'll.
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I'll answer for Mr. Jeff, since ya'll got him stirred up...He's probably drinking a LaBatt and laughing at all this..The 68 Hemi Dart was built specifically to compete in the SS class. Not stock, but SS. Mr Jeff probably knows the history of stock and SS racing racing better than most racers on this forum..That family has been around before dirt. They had one of the first 68 Hemi Darts, along with Mr. Sid. I believe alot of ya'll are just jealous of what that family has accomplished. I'm proud to say they are some of my racer heros. They are legends in this sport,compared to most of ya'll.

Jeff can and will answer for himself. And it would apparently be an excellent thing for him to do, since you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

I don't think anyone here is jealous of the Teuton family. I happen to like Jeff, and respect him. That does not mean I don't disagree with him on several things.

Maybe you should let the adults talk now, since you have no idea what is being discussed, and you have no dog in the fight.
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