worst red light debate, again!

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Casey Miles

Jeff Lee, I will tell you that when I started racing, I only went racing with the idea of racing, not who left first by some rule book, it was set that way because the lack of technology. When I started ET racing, the left lane always got the head start because the 5 bulb Xmas tree couldn't have any other type of handicap and "one" dial in for the day. If you were the slower car you went to the left lane and if you were the faster car you went to the right lane. That's how it was. Now with the onset of the newer technology, that has been corrected so that you can now pick your lane and change your dial from round to round. The first or worst rule was only put in place because they couldn't police it like they can now. Think about it, we didn't have red light traffic cameras back then either, but now they send you tickets in the mail, technology has moved on and we are still dealing with an old out of place rule. I'm not whinning, I'm stating the facts that all handicap racing should be even and fair no matter what your speed is.
I also didn't get a car to pick how fast or what class I was going to run, I got one that I could afford at the time, I'm still racing the same car.

Casey Miles
248H Stock?

OK,since we want to rationalize about this.If they change the red light rule to even the
so called playing field then maybe the fast cars should be allowed a mulligan if they spin the tire on a $hitty track.But wait,who told them to build such a hi horsepower car.They
should have built a car like mine that 60's 1.74-1.80 and they wouldn't be at a disadvantage..But wait again.Maybe if I don't like the first foul rule maybe I should build a
higer classed car.
Let's get NHRA to raise the payouts.Now that's doable.

[Bob Mulry]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

OK,since we want to rationalize about this.If they change the red light rule to even the
so called playing field then maybe the fast cars should be allowed a mulligan if they spin the tire on a $hitty track.But wait,who told them to build such a hi horsepower car.They
should have built a car like mine that 60's 1.74-1.80 and they wouldn't be at a disadvantage..But wait again.Maybe if I don't like the first foul rule maybe I should build a
higer classed car.
Let's get NHRA to raise the payouts.Now that's doable.

So let me see if I have this right.......

If a P/SA with a dial in of 12.70 races an M/SA car with 12.17 dial in the M/SA car is likely to spin the tires because it is the faster of the 2 cars???????????

And on the other hand

It would always make more sense to dial in slower than the car you are racing so that you can leave first and reduce the possibility of tire spin

Makes sense to me,
Bob

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Bob Mulry

So let me see if I have this right.......

If a P/SA with a dial in of 12.70 races an M/SA car with 12.17 dial in the M/SA car is likely to spin the tires because it is the faster of the 2 cars???????????

And on the other hand

It would always make more sense to dial in slower than the car you are racing so that you can leave first and reduce the possibility of tire spin

Makes sense to me,
Bob

Bob the M/SA usually falls into the first leaver category.Look at the amount of A toH cars compared to L and down.My analogy is for the faster cars.It's just as silly as the crying out for justice that Dedman is calling for.
Even the suggestion that he takes his disciples and starts a petition gets ridiculed.It's no wonder that we get ***** on by NHRA,we can't even get it through some peoples heads,
some of them not even S/SS racers,that this is a non issue on here.
I give up.Change the f*ucking rule and see what happens 6 months down the road.I'm done with this bull$hit.

[Jeff Lee]

I'm still pissed you f'n crybabbies got the deep stage disallowed. It's my race and I should decide how I want to race it! As long as I didn't trip the staging beam, what was the problem? And deep staging was definitely a problem solver for slow cars and slow drivers.
I really think drag racing is not for everybody. Either you lack talent, money or both then you want the rules changed to fit YOUR lack of talent. Face the music, some of you weren't meant for this.

[X-TECH MAN]

This is as bad as reading Eddies66 talk politics on the lounge. Im sick of both.

[John Kelley]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

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I give up.Change the f*ucking rule and see what happens 6 months down the road.I'm done with this bull$hit.

Is that a PROMISE ????? :-)
I doubt it..........

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by John Kelley

Is that a PROMISE ????? :-)
I doubt it..........

If I lived in a place called Tightwad I wouldn't criticize anybody.You're another one with his nose in a place he has no stake in.Go down to the neighborhood senior center and try to
organize the old timers there to increase the food portions for the weekend barbecues. And take Dedman with you.
Like my wife told an old busybody inour old neighborhood once."Go away,you're a nosy old man,a nosy old man".

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

If I lived in a place called Tightwad I wouldn't criticize anybody.You're another one with his nose in a place he has no stake in.Go down to the neighborhood senior center and try to
organize the old timers there to increase the food portions for the weekend barbecues. And take Dedman with you.
Like my wife told an old busybody inour old neighborhood once."Go away,you're a nosy old man,a nosy old man".

He doesn't even race?

[Ed Fernandez]

I got to tell everyone that the s/ss racers that are no longer with us are rolling over in there graves with the crap that individuals try to get changed . I could tell you this if my dad were here he would tell all of the slow car racers build a faster car or go ---- yourself.

Jimi, go read the original threads and you'll see that the majority of us slow guys have no problem.Almost to a person we said if we fouled first,shame on us.I think it makes me a better racer.But old Bill just can't get that into his head.Long live Crusader Rabbit.

[Toby Lang]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

I got to tell everyone that the s/ss racers that are no longer with us are rolling over in there graves with the crap that individuals try to get changed . I could tell you this if my dad were here he would tell all of the slow car racers build a faster car or go ---- yourself.

Jimi, go read the original threads and you'll see that the majority of us slow guys have no problem.Almost to a person we said if we fouled first,shame on us.I think it makes me a better racer.But old Bill just can't get that into his head.Long live Crusader Rabbit.

Ed, come on now, you have almost 4000 posts and you still can't edit a quote properly? No wonder people attribute quotes to you.

It's not that hard. Just hit the quote button and delete everything but the text you are responding to, but DON'T delete the brackets [ ] or anything inside them.

For instance, here is what Jimi's quote should look like after editing and before posting (I added an asterisk inside the brackets so you could see the format):

[*QUOTE=jimi;255294]I got to tell everyone that the s/ss racers that are no longer with us are rolling over in there graves with the crap that individuals try to get changed . I could tell you this if my dad were here he would tell all of the slow car racers build a faster car or go ---- yourself.[*/QUOTE]


Here is what it looks like without the asterisks in there:

Originally Posted by jimi

I got to tell everyone that the s/ss racers that are no longer with us are rolling over in there graves with the crap that individuals try to get changed . I could tell you this if my dad were here he would tell all of the slow car racers build a faster car or go ---- yourself.

It's not that hard is it???


-Toby