Staging light error caught on film & Div. Director's respons

Tom Goldman · 04-19-2011, 01:41 PM

Wonder why Jeff Foster hasn't offered any insite into this.
You are right about the technology level, but mabe thats a good thing considering the skill level of the guy who "throws the switch" at National events.

MEXJOE · 04-19-2011, 02:16 PM

Amen!!!

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Originally Posted by tom goldman

you are right about the technology level, but mabe thats a good thing considering the skill level of the guy who "throws the switch" at national events.

Chuck Beach · 04-19-2011, 02:25 PM

You have been NHRA enhanced .... free entry to the next National event is the right thing to do ..

Bucky Hess · 04-19-2011, 03:05 PM

Something like this happened to me at the gators about 10 years ago in the 4th round.I footbrake and push my car against converter to stage .i dont bump in .as my lite came down it redlit me. they said when i staged it was so shallow that my car backed upagainst the converter bull ****

JRyan · 04-19-2011, 08:14 PM

Don it was Douglas WY. Cool track and always a fun race.

People, I was there watching Don's run, and he's correct -- the car never moved, not even a little bit, and he wasn't shallow-staged. Sometimes things just happen.

For instance, the red and green can't both come on at the same time. Yet (hadtobethere can verify it), it happened to me in time trials at Cordova. I asked the head of staging whether it would be considered a red or a green, and he said it didn't happen -- I was dreaming. So on the next time trial, it happened again and he was watching. Now I know that's supposed to be impossible, but it did occur on two consecutive runs. The staging directors response after the run was, "We'd consider it a red-light since the red light was on". I said I'd consider it a green-light since the green was on. But that was 1978, and I've never seen it since.

ZK, rest his soul, got screwed at Brainerd with a .503 light (.500 perfect at the time) but the red came on. They wouldn't let him re-run it, but Buster did apologize to him later in the day saying that he screwed up and it should have been a re-run.

Then there's the Winternationals NATIONAL DRAGSTER Sportsman coverage issue of 1989 or '90 with the picture of Gene B's Nova leaving the line first with both wheels dangling two feet in the air and the last amber still on. This was the final which he won, but the light should have been SOOOOOO RED. Why wasn't it?

Life goes on!

Jerry

Sean Cour · 04-19-2011, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucky Hess

Something like this happened to me at the gators about 10 years ago in the 4th round.I footbrake and push my car against converter to stage .i dont bump in .as my lite came down it redlit me. they said when i staged it was so shallow that my car backed upagainst the converter bull ****

How the hell does a car "back up against the converter?". Sometimes I wonder.......

Ed Wright · 04-19-2011, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean Cour

How the hell does a car "back up against the converter?". Sometimes I wonder.......

Really!

goinbroke2 · 04-20-2011, 06:26 AM

Re: "Backing up against the converter"
Obviously a car will not back up against the converter, but I have seen a car rock a couple inches by varying the rpm with the front tires locked. Not impossible to imagine linelock the front and bring up the rpm to flex/push/etc into the lights. Then rpm drops and the car flexes back. Not saying this happened, just saying, never say never.

In '88 or '89 I won a bracket race with a green light.....and a .499 light. The other guy came back yelling but was told the computor rounds up to the nearest 10th or something like that. He accepted it and I went on to runner up. ($200.00 if I remember right)
I thought it was strange but wasn't going to argue.

I think the adage "that's racing" applies here.
Treat it as a learning experience and paint the front rims flat black.

Jim Wahl · 04-19-2011, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucky Hess

Something like this happened to me at the gators about 10 years ago in the 4th round.I footbrake and push my car against converter to stage .i dont bump in .as my lite came down it redlit me. they said when i staged it was so shallow that my car backed upagainst the converter bull ****

The technical prowess of some of the higher-ups baffles me sometimes. He probably said it with a straight face also! Jim

Chad Rhodes · 04-19-2011, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Wahl

The technical prowess of some of the higher-ups baffles me sometimes. He probably said it with a straight face also! Jim

and probably believed what he was saying

04-19-2011, 01:41 PM	#1
Tom Goldman VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Allentown,PA Posts: 2,476 Likes: 891 Liked 882 Times in 236 Posts	Re: Staging light error caught on film & Div. Director's res Wonder why Jeff Foster hasn't offered any insite into this. You are right about the technology level, but mabe thats a good thing considering the skill level of the guy who "throws the switch" at National events. __________________ Tom Goldman 1500 SG , 1506 STK

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Chuck Beach Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Delaware, Ohio Posts: 664 Likes: 12 Liked 58 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Staging light error caught on film & Div. Director's res You have been NHRA enhanced .... free entry to the next National event is the right thing to do .. __________________ Chuck Beach 3340 STK

04-19-2011, 03:05 PM	#4
Bucky Hess Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bunker Hill Posts: 182 Likes: 69 Liked 151 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Staging light error caught on film & Div. Director's res Something like this happened to me at the gators about 10 years ago in the 4th round.I footbrake and push my car against converter to stage .i dont bump in .as my lite came down it redlit me. they said when i staged it was so shallow that my car backed upagainst the converter bull **** __________________ Bucky Hess 1426 SS/AH

04-19-2011, 08:14 PM	#5
JRyan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aberdeen SD Posts: 645 Likes: 30 Liked 112 Times in 31 Posts	Re: Staging light error caught on film & Div. Director's res Don it was Douglas WY. Cool track and always a fun race. People, I was there watching Don's run, and he's correct -- the car never moved, not even a little bit, and he wasn't shallow-staged. Sometimes things just happen. For instance, the red and green can't both come on at the same time. Yet (hadtobethere can verify it), it happened to me in time trials at Cordova. I asked the head of staging whether it would be considered a red or a green, and he said it didn't happen -- I was dreaming. So on the next time trial, it happened again and he was watching. Now I know that's supposed to be impossible, but it did occur on two consecutive runs. The staging directors response after the run was, "We'd consider it a red-light since the red light was on". I said I'd consider it a green-light since the green was on. But that was 1978, and I've never seen it since. ZK, rest his soul, got screwed at Brainerd with a .503 light (.500 perfect at the time) but the red came on. They wouldn't let him re-run it, but Buster did apologize to him later in the day saying that he screwed up and it should have been a re-run. Then there's the Winternationals NATIONAL DRAGSTER Sportsman coverage issue of 1989 or '90 with the picture of Gene B's Nova leaving the line first with both wheels dangling two feet in the air and the last amber still on. This was the final which he won, but the light should have been SOOOOOO RED. Why wasn't it? Life goes on! Jerry

04-20-2011, 06:26 AM	#8
goinbroke2 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NS CANADA Posts: 892 Likes: 1,628 Liked 393 Times in 153 Posts	Re: Staging light error caught on film & Div. Director's res Re: "Backing up against the converter" Obviously a car will not back up against the converter, but I have seen a car rock a couple inches by varying the rpm with the front tires locked. Not impossible to imagine linelock the front and bring up the rpm to flex/push/etc into the lights. Then rpm drops and the car flexes back. Not saying this happened, just saying, never say never. In '88 or '89 I won a bracket race with a green light.....and a .499 light. The other guy came back yelling but was told the computor rounds up to the nearest 10th or something like that. He accepted it and I went on to runner up. ($200.00 if I remember right) I thought it was strange but wasn't going to argue. I think the adage "that's racing" applies here. Treat it as a learning experience and paint the front rims flat black.

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