2012 Mustang 5.0

[MikeFicacci]

What am I missing? The rulebook? The car is available to the public as it sits and goes high-11's with a stick and a little work. Maybe you need NHRA to make up some number so you can run fast. I have no idea but I do know that anyone who is anyone can make this ACTUAL production car run and run well in B.

Excuse me for being out of touch when I asked if a car that rated at 412 and has a weight of 3670 pounds from the factory is going to be available in the classification guide without some massaging so the general public with $100,000 sitting around can be #1 and pretend like they have a big ****.

[Charley Downing]

Mike you guys act like this HP game is something new to the sport. Get over it, it has been this way for 50 plus years. NHRA makes the rules NOT ford, gm or any other car company. Sorry your 40 year old combo is no longer one of the faster cars. You spent tens of thousands of dollars cheating up your old car and now with one stroke of the pen NHRA has ***%ed all you cheaters. That is the real problem you guys have.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Charley Downing

Mike you guys act like this HP game is something new to the sport. Get over it, it has been this way for 50 plus years. NHRA makes the rules NOT ford, gm or any other car company. Sorry your 40 year old combo is no longer one of the faster cars.

Charlie, you could have gotten your point across a whole lot better if you had stopped your comment right there. Mike, his brothers and his dad aren't "pushing the rules" any harder than you, your brother and your dad.

[Charley Downing]

Billy you are correct. Everyone is pushing the rules myself included. This is just NHRA's way of getting back at all the racers that have been pushing the rules. Now all the expensive acid ported covered up stuff is worthless. It's all part of playing the game called STOCK.

[MikeFicacci]

I have no interest in getting into this with you Charley because #1 I have no idea who you are or what you race and #2 think the idea of the new cars has been beat to death. I was simply trying to say that a 2011 5.0 from the factory would make an awesome B/SA car and if I had the money would do it in an instant because it is a 100% factory-built, production vehicle that you can drive off the lot and that's something that I think is worth being proud of at the end of the day. Go ahead, call me an "assclown" for saying so.

[Charley Downing]

Mike your not an A$$clown. You actually go to the race track and race. My point is having it rated at 412hp is way to much. The car would weight 3670 in B/SA and it's still only 302 CI. It's not a good combo at 412 HP.

[MikeFicacci]

The stick is a low 12-second car from the factory. Let's not forget that pre-all this craziness, 10.20's were fast in B/S and there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that can't be accomplished with an overhead cam 302 engine. Granted you can't purchase the car, take it to the track and have everyone covered by a half-a-second, but someone who is actually interested in putting in the time and r&d could get that car to fly.

Overhead cams, variable valve timing, lightweight pistons, fully-roller motor, fuel injection? I would love that challenge.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by MikeFicacci

Excuse me for being out of touch when I asked if a car that rated at 412 and has a weight of 3670 pounds from the factory is going to be available in the classification guide without some massaging so the general public with $100,000 sitting around can be #1 and pretend like they have a big dick.

Mike, be careful there young man. You're starting to sound like me!

[kdanner]

Originally Posted by MikeFicacci

What am I missing? The rulebook? The car is available to the public as it sits and goes high-11's with a stick and a little work. Maybe you need NHRA to make up some number so you can run fast. I have no idea but I do know that anyone who is anyone can make this ACTUAL production car run and run well in B.

Excuse me for being out of touch when I asked if a car that rated at 412 and has a weight of 3670 pounds from the factory is going to be available in the classification guide without some massaging so the general public with $100,000 sitting around can be #1 and pretend like they have a big ****.

Mostly agree, don't think it would get to the point that it would "run well", but it could run in B. I have one with an automatic. Right now it is .12 over the B/SA index. It would be 100% stock legal if I took the drag radials off and put slicks on. It is overweight but would start to get close just with all of that 3" exhaust pulled off it. I haven't even put headers on it. It has never even had a valve cover off. I'd guess it might be reasonable to get one to .50 under, may get tough beyond that though. If the Boss ends up in A, I think that would be the better car.

[Damn Yankee]

I know this is premature as the NHRA hasn't even rated the HP factor for the Coyote engine, however I would like to hear what changes you guys would make to a 2011-2012 Mustang for NHRA Stock Eliminator competition. Looking for other input besides the usual diet, chassis upgrades, I have listed below. We are talking real racecar; not a drive it to the track and swap out the slicks scenario.

For beginners, I am thinking G-Force 5-speed, McLeod Soft-Lok or an Advanced Clutch, Strange Brakes, Santuff Struts, Afco Shocks, 9.5" Strange or MW Pumpkin, Big Stuff 3 or the new Holley EFI to avoid rev limiter, and cosult with some of the Mod Motor guys on some camshaft input.