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Old 01-24-2011, 08:43 PM   #1
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Hey gary I noticed you have both me and Brad listed but we only have one class legal car. It will be there but who is driving is up for debate.
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Should I call WWE, and have you guys wrestle for it (lol)? Or, should you guys play your favorite card game, and the winner gets to drive??? Again lol....

Well I'm happy, but now that means there will be two names (more) that I'll have to take off of the earlier count, because Chris's car won't be ready in time for that race.

I'm glad that you guy's car will be able to go there, but now we still need at least 10 more racers to get up to 24...any of you D4 racers out there that can come out here???
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Old 01-25-2011, 10:08 PM   #2
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Toby,

No, I don't think that the NHRA sanctioning fees have no bearing on entry fees. They certainly do. That is why I made the statement:"Moreover, if the take at the gate at SIR does not cover the operating costs, they will raise the gate price."

To me, the sanctioning body fees, insurance, wages, etc, etc, are all part of operating costs. And for the most part, those fees are fixed and the tracks know going into a season how many cars at each race it will take to turn a profit.

But again, the bottom line is the take at the gate must offset the operating costs. If it doesn't, the track will not stay open very long. How many tracks have started charging for camping, oil disposal, etc, etc? Why have they started charging for all these things? They are either greedy or their operating costs have risen. If indeed their operating cost's have risen, they will need to find a way to offset them. That in turn will mean that the cost to the racer's will be increased one way or another.

I have spent some time this week talking to Mike at Oahe Speedway. I want to start some race sponsorship to promote a new product I am distributing. He has been very informative about what it really cost's to run a track.

As for SIR, I won't pretend to know why they are switching from NHRA to IHRA. Maybe it is because the IHRA fees are less. I don't know. The switch to IHRA was not why I originally posted a reply to this thread. I replied because I wanted to know who was promoting the combo. The orignal call to support the combo as well as IHRA's involvement was very contradicting. Unfortunately, this thread has swirled out of proportion from there.

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Old 01-26-2011, 08:25 PM   #3
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I have spent some time this week talking to Mike at Oahe Speedway. I want to start some race sponsorship to promote a new product I am distributing. He has been very informative about what it really cost's to run a track.

As for SIR, I won't pretend to know why they are switching from NHRA to IHRA. Maybe it is because the IHRA fees are less. I don't know. The switch to IHRA was not why I originally posted a reply to this thread. I replied because I wanted to know who was promoting the combo. The orignal call to support the combo as well as IHRA's involvement was very contradicting. Unfortunately, this thread has swirled out of proportion from there.

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Hi Dean,

They (S.I.R.) didn't deliberately switch sanctioning bodies, it was because the promoter of that upcoming March race (Nitro Jam), is owned by the same company (Feld Motorsports) that owns the IHRA, and that was a foul to the NHRA. However, Glendora's decision to cancel their sanctioning from that track is the reason IHRA now has a chance to move in. The racers will decide, and I hope they'll vote them in, because it could speak volumns for expanding IHRA out west to give all of America an option for our class (sportsman) racing dollars. I hope the racers give them a try, because if they don't then we'll just continue with the monopoly that's existed out this way for decades, and continue to watch us sportsman racers continue to pay for the expenses the pros cause (much more than we ever do), which isn't fair....they shouldn't be the only game in town (so to speak).

It's not that I don't like NHRA, but I don't like how they're treating us sportsman racers, and they're doing a good job of pricing us out of our own sport! Moreover (and as others have said either here or in that IRS thread), if the people with their feet on the pavement were compensated proportionaly to the bigwigs, then I would understand it better, but I doubt that they are, and that's not right either...

I wish you well in the product you're distributing too...pm me if it's something I/my car might be able to use?
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Old 01-27-2011, 06:39 PM   #4
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Only 2 people that I talked to at the meeting/banquet stated they were voting to stay NHRA. Voting will end Saturday 1/29 and is open to anyone who raced at SIR in the last year.
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Only 2 people that I talked to at the meeting/banquet stated they were voting to stay NHRA. Voting will end Saturday 1/29 and is open to anyone who raced at SIR in the last year.
That's good to know, because only one of the people I've spoken to wants them to stay NHRA, and the reasons for me to be glad for the looming switch, just keep on coming (the latest being a combo class runoff at the 12 national events (contesting class elimination cars), who only have one entry in their specific class of Stock/Super Stock (i.e. my DF/S class). Since I run an automatic, I'll have to race against all other automatic entries that are a part of only one entry per class. Running off of your specific index (with no breakout), whoever gets to the finish line first wins...meaning the racers with the most money in their cars (most likely will win! Not cool after they quickened our indexes .30 last year last year!

We need variety out here, and this major acquisition will be the spring board to more acquisitions in the west, and finally we western US racers will have another option for our class racing dollar....which may entice NHRA to reverse our increased competition costs of recent years....since they truly CARE(?) about us sportsman racers???
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It is official; SIR is now an IHRA track for the 2011 season.
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Email I just received:
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

NITRO JAM AND IHRA COMING TO TUCSON

The Tucson region has always had a rich tradition of great motorsport events. It is a community that has always demanded the best. And now Merles Southwestern International Raceway proudly announces that the best is coming March 25 and 26 as the 2011 Arizona Nitro Jam invades Tucson.
The 2011 North American Nitro Jam Tour will feature Top Fuel Dragsters, Prostalgia Nitro Funny Cars, Nitro Harleys, Fuel Altereds, and jet cars. And for the first time ever fans will witness the Cool Bus Wheelstander along with a Jet Semi as it takes on the legendary Grave Digger Monster Truck.
After weeks of meetings and voting from local racers, Southwestern International Raceway has confirmed that the facility will be sanctioned by the International Hot Rod Association. According to new owner, LJ Motorsports and CEO Bernie Longjohn the IHRA affiliation will insure additional racer friendly programs including the Summit Super Series.
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Old 01-30-2011, 07:18 PM   #8
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Yahoo SIR!!!

It's been far too long since there's been any competition for NHRA out here, which is why it didn't seem to bother them that they're pricing many sportsman racers out of competition. Now we'll have some options, and I look forward to seeing who's next to break from the overpriced/under appreciated (by) Glendora group???
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Old 02-01-2011, 01:20 AM   #9
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Gary,
Please tell us where S/SS fits into this circus....

"The 2011 North American Nitro Jam Tour will feature Top Fuel Dragsters, Prostalgia Nitro Funny Cars, Nitro Harleys, Fuel Altereds, and jet cars. And for the first time ever fans will witness the Cool Bus Wheelstander along with a Jet Semi as it takes on the legendary Grave Digger Monster Truck."

Or are you planning to wear out your expensive stocker running the bracket program?
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Email I just received:
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

NITRO JAM AND IHRA COMING TO TUCSON

The Tucson region has always had a rich tradition of great motorsport events. It is a community that has always demanded the best. And now Merles Southwestern International Raceway proudly announces that the best is coming March 25 and 26 as the 2011 Arizona Nitro Jam invades Tucson.
The 2011 North American Nitro Jam Tour will feature Top Fuel Dragsters, Prostalgia Nitro Funny Cars, Nitro Harleys, Fuel Altereds, and jet cars. And for the first time ever fans will witness the Cool Bus Wheelstander along with a Jet Semi as it takes on the legendary Grave Digger Monster Truck.
After weeks of meetings and voting from local racers, Southwestern International Raceway has confirmed that the facility will be sanctioned by the International Hot Rod Association. According to new owner, LJ Motorsports and CEO Bernie Longjohn the IHRA affiliation will insure additional racer friendly programs including the Summit Super Series.
And some people call the NHRA a circus? WOW! Whats with this? No wonder the car counts are low.
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