V10 - has it been to quiet

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by herbjr

I love how people bitch about how much someone else spends racing. I cant afford a Drag Pack but I wont bitch at anyone for having one. How much do you think a fast 1.25 under ABC or D stocker would cost to build 2 years ago. I know more than one guy who has over 75K in their but again thats their choice. Get in where you fit in and dont bitch because someone can fit a little more $$$ in their operation. I guess you guys are looking for an OBAMA handout to go fast. Congrats on anyone who has the money to do this sport the way they please.

Herb Jr

And how long and how much work went into getting the old combos to go 1.25 under.
Now you plunk your money down and in most cases (not all) send the car to some shop to get all the "enhancements" fitted in,and to beat all get a 150HP + advantage to start.And in the case of the Mustangs run the car at less than WOT and run amok over all the old combos.
I've been witness to a Drag Pak build over the past year and it in no way does it resemble what anyone in their right mind would consider being a stocker.
Maybe that's why people have a problem with these new combinations?

[Dgal]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

And how long and how much work went into getting the old combos to go 1.25 under.
Now you plunk your money down and in most cases (not all) send the car to some shop to get all the "enhancements" fitted in,and to beat all get a 150HP + advantage to start.And in the case of the Mustangs run the car at less than WOT and run amok over all the old combos.
I've been witness to a Drag Pak build over the past year and it in no way does it resemble what anyone in their right mind would consider being a stocker.
Maybe that's why people have a problem with these new combinations?

Exactly! It is not the fact they are neat, that they are fast, or that they are advanced. It is the fact they were never on the street or met emission standards of the year claimed. The '68 Hemis/Darts did not either, but they were Super Stockers.

Don

[borninamopar]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

And how long and how much work went into getting the old combos to go 1.25 under.
Now you plunk your money down and in most cases (not all) send the car to some shop to get all the "enhancements" fitted in,and to beat all get a 150HP + advantage to start.And in the case of the Mustangs run the car at less than WOT and run amok over all the old combos.
I've been witness to a Drag Pak build over the past year and it in no way does it resemble what anyone in their right mind would consider being a stocker.
Maybe that's why people have a problem with these new combinations?

This was my entire point in my previous post. The DP cars are not stock production cars. Period. I have a 2009 R/T and my daughter drives a 2010 R/T. Now these models and even the SRT 8 are legal for the stock and SS classes. Now don't get me wrong, I am a true die hard mopar fanatic. You would have to whip my *** and beat me down and then throw me in a ford or chevy, and I still am not going to drive it. I have a garage and barn full of old mopars and enough parts to keep them running until long after I am gone...But, that doesn't mean that I support the issue of the DP cars. Number 1, Grandma mopar does not make a Challenger for sale to the public with a 360 in it (wish she did-I love that little small block) or I'd have one. And Grandma sure as hell doesn't make a Challenger for sale to the public with a V-10 in it.
My dad class raced back in the late 60's and well into the late 70's, back when there were no index runs...First one to the finish line won..He got out of it because of all the crap that is going on now...He says it is too much like bracket racing now. Maybe he is right. Just my opinion.

[RULER]

Look now there is somebody out there that gets it!!! if you can't purchase it off the show room floor than it's not a stocker, if the factorys want to build custom race cars then put them in super stock or create a class for them. Both mopar and ford have engine combo's that wouldn't last a week if ran on pump gas, but it's all about how much and when do we get our $$$.

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

And how long and how much work went into getting the old combos to go 1.25 under.
Now you plunk your money down and in most cases (not all) send the car to some shop to get all the "enhancements" fitted in,and to beat all get a 150HP + advantage to start.And in the case of the Mustangs run the car at less than WOT and run amok over all the old combos.
I've been witness to a Drag Pak build over the past year and it in no way does it resemble what anyone in their right mind would consider being a stocker.
Maybe that's why people have a problem with these new combinations?

Well Herb?

[Ed Wright]

Ed, do ya really want to hear it? Do you really care? Lol

[Andys dad]

Alright some lively dialogue again

I wondered where you guys have been all winter - hibernation no doubt

BTW - our car has never been slow - 10.29 in B/SA at Pomona

Oh I know it is not as fast as you guys that are going to get HP like us for going 1.20 under - LOL

Let the real cars show up for a change instead of holding back to protect HP

And.. I have well over $50k in it - just not all at once

OK let the bashing begin a new

I got to tell you I find this website very entertaining


:-) peace

[Jeff Teuton]

To whom it may concern: My ego is doing just fine, just in case you were concerned.

[Phillip marvetz]

Glad to be of service.

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[skills]

Happy New Year everybody. Hey Andy's dad congrats on a new v-10, hopefully their will be some at Englishtown or Maple Grove this year. I like the new stuff, but still do enjoy the older cars. I would hope they will get stock and super stock worked out I enjoy the class racers in all classes. Why isnt Dodge using the Challenger in Pro Stock? The avenger....please.