Div 2 a 2 stater once again? FL GA

[KingReptile]

He inherited a dog pile.Time will tell he has his work cut for him he needs to work it.He is right a lot of these tracks in NC arent NHRA and wont meet the regulations praise him for that.There are some dives but Fayetville is nice at least the last time I was there.Theres Coastal Plains pb a dive now but I guess they wont dump the dough to suit us.Bruton dont want us he wont pay alcohol cars hes a tight wad.Give him a chance but I will not support Div 2 till they fix it!! A lot of people talk lets see some action.Actions speak louder than words so the gf tells me You guys will see how it is at the national open!! Its great to be optimistic and hope for the best .Time will tell

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by KingReptile

He inherited a dog pile.Time will tell he has his work cut for him he needs to work it.He is right a lot of these tracks in NC arent NHRA and wont meet the regulations praise him for that.There are some dives but Fayetville is nice at least the last time I was there.Theres Coastal Plains pb a dive now but I guess they wont dump the dough to suit us.Bruton dont want us he wont pay alcohol cars hes a tight wad.Give him a chance but I will not support Div 2 till they fix it!! A lot of people talk lets see some action.Actions speak louder than words so the gf tells me You guys will see how it is at the national open!! Its great to be optimistic and hope for the best .Time will tell

Maybe they should dump the Alcohol cars at points races and opens! They dont pay entries and recieve full purses Just use them at National events like the Pros. How many good ones are there anyway. Most oil the track and have a hard time making a complete pass anyway (like the fuel cars). Manzo is about it. Its a benifit race for him when he decides to run Div. 2 or any other division and the Alcohol cars take way to much time to run 4-6- or 8 no load cars. Problem is the tracks are having a hard time surviving now so why should they drop a few hundred thou. or more in up grading the tracks. They are fine for the .90, Stock, Comp, and S.S cars as is and the show wouldnt run late or into another weekend if weather is a factor. The other classes would have better pit space also.

[danny waters sr]

To this day i have never figured out why the alky funnies and alky dragsters are considered sportsman racers..I think maybe to begin with they were a spectator draw back in the old days.. The top sportsman and top dragster put on a better show to me (fast and less time to run them and minimal down time ).Not knocking the alky classes , but they should be considered a pro catagory. The spectator draw now is not what it used to be. Take that money and use it somewhere else or at least the host track will not drown after an event with such expense as this. Just my .02 worth.

[treessavoy]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Maybe they should dump the Alcohol cars at points races and opens! They dont pay entries and recieve full purses Just use them at National events like the Pros. How many good ones are there anyway. Most oil the track and have a hard time making a complete pass anyway (like the fuel cars). Manzo is about it. Its a benifit race for him when he decides to run Div. 2 or any other division and the Alcohol cars take way to much time to run 4-6- or 8 no load cars. Problem is the tracks are having a hard time surviving now so why should they drop a few hundred thou. or more in up grading the tracks. They are fine for the .90, Stock, Comp, and S.S cars as is and the show wouldnt run late or into another weekend if weather is a factor. The other classes would have better pit space also.

That's a good point. If the NHRA would drop the Alcohol cars from the menu for points meets, then many tracks would not need million dollar upgrades and would therefore be able to handle points meets.

But, this is not a Divisional problem but a Glendora decision.

The solution for each Divisions problems is the same.......Money and unless you own a bank that the Fed's bailed out you're probably hurting just like the rest of us.

I don't think the NHRA got any bail out money but as badly as they are run they should have.

JimR

[Alan Roehrich]

If the alcohol cars paid an entry fee commensurate with the level of crap required to put up with them, and took their purse from the left overs, we could live with that. As it stands, they're a severe drain on the tracks, track owners, and by extension, the rest of the racers who actually pay their way.

If there's a sponsor that wants them, then the sponsor needs to pay for their part of the costs involved.

[jmcarter]

Not trying to pile on but if you look at the D2 points for alky you'll see less than 10 in each class claiming D2 as their home Division (of course they all don't live in D2 but that's another story). Furthermore many only run 1-3 races a year so essentially D2 tracks have to guarantee the purse for many out of Division racers. IMHO they have plenty of opportunities to run National events that are facilitated to handle them and that a couple of Divisional races should be all that's allotted for them.

[Alan Roehrich]

Yeah, NHRA loves them, and loves giving them our money, so NHRA ought to run them at Gainesville and Atlanta, and let the private tracks exclude them.