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Old 11-11-2010, 05:51 PM   #1
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And your driver said you were heavy for C/SA while running B/SA. You were the guys that were going to race straight up and not sandbag. How long did that last?
And you actually heard him say that???? Or are you relying on second hand info which might be either mistakenly interpreted, or simply wrong??? It is amazing how someone gets a fact misinterpreted, and someone else is trying to hang us on hearsay, that isn't even close to the truth. Toby misheard Keith about the weight. No big deal, until someone who wasn't even in the same conversation wants to pick a nit with us. Did you heard Keith say anything about the weight? Or are you just applying typical Democratic argument strategy, "Forget the facts and issues, just attack the person!"

We run our car like others run theirs.We take weight out when we don't need it, and we put it when we do need it. No difference there as I can list an awful lot of stockers who do the same thing. But if you actually knew our factory shipping weight (instead of relying on rumors etc..) then you would know exactly what we weigh, ad we a re a very heavy car.. We can take everything legal out of the car and still can't get down to the weight in most classes we have run.

Why are we being persecuted about running an unfair combo, when Dgal (Don) can run his fuel injected car against a flock of carbed cars from the 60's and nobody thinks that is equally unfair??

This is really funny stuff as many kettles here call us out, and ignore their own positions in the past. A mis-factored car in the past is OK, but any factor issues on the new cars is a crime against humanity...

I don't know you who were talking to in Vegas. The many fans in the stands I saw were on their feet cheering for us. And the many more who came down to meet us and get pictures with us were also cheering for us. I guess you see what you want to see and hear what you want to hear, but this (Thursday) morning in Pomona, I had dozens of folks come by the car to get a good look and get photos. We even put some of them in the car for photos, and they love it. These are fans of the car indeed. Fans like us a lot, racers might no like us, but the fans surely do, no matter what negative fictions get thrown out here.

Come by the car some time, and if I am in a good mood, I will even let you sit in it for a minute,if I am really in a good mood. And after our first qualifying run, I am in a pretty good mood. So stop by, and share a bit of racing history.

But regardless of who like us and who doesn't, get used to it folks, we (the new cars) are here to stay, and next year your cars will be treated to whole new set of rules that you aren't going to like, any more than we like them. Keep whining and crying and maybe NHRA can find a new way to punish the whiners in addition to lowering the AHFS threshold.

And to whomever called us sandbaggers, we are not sandbaggers at all. We are only doing what the other cars are doing. But to correct the facts, we use lead shot bags in our weight box, ........not sand anyway....

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Old 11-11-2010, 08:00 PM   #2
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Why are we being persecuted about running an unfair combo, when Dgal (Don) can run his fuel injected car against a flock of carbed cars from the 60's and nobody thinks that is equally unfair??



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I guess since you are calling us out, you might as well tell the entire story. Kyle's car was in it's own class until it got properly factored and then mixed in with the carb'd cars. I know you have said in the past that you support the same for your car, but don't make it out like your factory experiment is playing by the same rules as the fuel injected cars did until they were factored properly.

Yes, the fuel injected cars had about 3 years of the wrong category, but lessons should have been learned. And for your sake, you better hope they don't put you in a FX class or something similar. The amount of money you have spent so far is a fraction of what it will cost to compete in an FX class.

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Well now if Mr. Linch is this great guy then why doesn't he try doing some of this with his own money for a change. He may be a great tuner, car guy but has he done any racin lately on his own nickle. And like somebody said we run it all out, well 112 @ 10, anything is not all out!!!!
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Old 11-11-2010, 08:39 PM   #4
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David, I realize he isn't with us now, but your son said it.
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Old 11-12-2010, 06:43 PM   #5
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David, I realize he isn't with us now, but your son said it.
Right on Ed!!!!!!!!!

And they railed on him when he said it. Now they rail on us for actually doing it. Some people have so little life that they must find some significance somewhere, we are darned if do, and darned if we don't.

I don't know why I even bother to ever respond to most of these people. For them complaining is like religion, the ones who understand need no explanation, and for those who don't get it, no explanation is adequate...

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Old 11-12-2010, 08:41 PM   #6
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I will admit that I am not a racer or even know the technical points of the rules but I am a huge fan of s/ss racing. I am one of the people that don't ft up when the pros are done and enjoy walking through the pits looking at the sportsmen cars. I will say this I am a mopar guy at heart and enjoy seeing the new cars. I don't want to see the old cars go away though how can you not enjoy john shaul's max wedge. You guys are yelling at the racers when it isn't their fault yes they have an advantage for now but why not enjoy that. Hopefully nhra will fix the problem and I am not sure a class by itself is great. Look at the hemis, most ofthem don't even run much outside of the challenges now. I may upset some people and for that I say sorry but is fans like all the cars from the new ones to ed's amc. That's what makes stock so much fun there is something for everybody.
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David, I realize he isn't with us now, but your son said it.
Chris (Drooze) said it exactly like it played out Keith was the mystery driver that a lot on here said was fictional.
The plan was to run the 5.7 after the first couple of races.
It all worked out just as Chris said it would.
Where are all the naysayers from earlier this year? They didn't want a seperate class or gangs of horsepower back then.
All I can say is Drooze you did good.
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Chris (Drooze) said it exactly like it played out Keith was the mystery driver that a lot on here said was fictional.
The plan was to run the 5.7 after the first couple of races.
It all worked out just as Chris said it would.
Where are all the naysayers from earlier this year? They didn't want a seperate class or gangs of horsepower back then.
All I can say is Drooze you did good.
Yes, he did good. Hp ratings are still bogus, and until they get factored correctly people aren't going to be happy with them. Put them in the classes where they belong and there will be no problems. That engine began at least 100 hp light.

As for "new" cars, David thinks it the "new cars" is the probem. It's only the extremely bogus hp ratings. Nobody would have a problem with the new Camaros, they have an honest hp rating, thus would not stand a chance agains the new bogus-rated factory race cars.

Nobody can condem the guys buying them. Neat cars. Just the bogus hp numbers and the extreme sand bagging bothers people.

Btw the Keith, "mystery driver", has not forgotten a thing! .014 light first round. Good job! They are doing a great job with that car. If they would race straight up like Chris said they would it would get factored correctly.
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Well now if Mr. Linch is this great guy then why doesn't he try doing some of this with his own money for a change. He may be a great tuner, car guy but has he done any racing lately on his own nickle. And like somebody said we run it all out, well 112 @ 10, anything is not all out!!!!
Once again, when you don't have a point that can be supported, just attack someone else's character....

As for Keith using his own money, how does that make any difference???? What a ludicrous argument to prove some inane point...

If your point is somehow that he doesn't deserve to run fast because it isn't all on his nickle, are you also saying that Greg Anderson, Jason Line, and other pros don't deserve to run fast because they have a sponsor??? So, just what was your point.

I love it when monkeys type long enough to get some words on the screen, and then sit back and smirk at their own "clever creations"...

Keith is a great Racer, a Great Mechanic (He built the go fast engine we are now running), and a heck of a nice guy...

Just because you cant find any factual reason to attack him or his character doesn't mean you can make up crap up that has no bearing on anything. So either find a valid point to argue, or keep your feeble thoughts to yourself.

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Once again, when you don't have a point that can be supported, just attack someone else's character....

As for Keith using his own money, how does that make any difference???? What a ludicrous argument to prove some inane point...

If your point is somehow that he doesn't deserve to run fast because it isn't all on his nickle, are you also saying that Greg Anderson, Jason Line, and other pros don't deserve to run fast because they have a sponsor??? So, just what was your point.

I love it when monkeys type long enough to get some words on the screen, and then sit back and smirk at their own "clever creations"...

Keith is a great Racer, a Great Mechanic (He built the go fast engine we are now running), and a heck of a nice guy...

Just because you cant find any factual reason to attack him or his character doesn't mean you can make up crap up that has no bearing on anything. So either find a valid point to argue, or keep your feeble thoughts to yourself.

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Well said David ..........very well indeed ! !
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