Santangelo vs. Lynch Heads Up

Stocker 2 · 10-26-2010, 08:19 AM

Then after you have met all 9 pages of Stock rules you pull up against a non-driver with deep pockets in a heads up run and he sends you home. Maybe that is a better way to race...if you're the one with deep pockets.

thomas sheehan · 10-26-2010, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Stocker 2

Then after you have met all 9 pages of Stock rules you pull up against a non-driver with deep pockets in a heads up run and he sends you home. Maybe that is a better way to race...if you're the one with deep pockets.

I guess you're calling Keith Lynch a "non- driver"......... (that's funny right there!)

Patrick Downing · 10-26-2010, 09:22 AM

If you are referring to Keith with that statement then you better do some homework. Also with everything that the "Drooze" crew has gone through this season I would say that this win was well deserved. Great Job Guys!!!

Stocker 2 · 10-26-2010, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Patrick Downing

If you are referring to Keith with that statement then you better do some homework. Also with everything that the "Drooze" crew has gone through this season I would say that this win was well deserved. Great Job Guys!!!

Well I guess that ends the controversy of the DP and CJ cars being factored wrong. So no one will ever complain again when they get beat in a heads-up run.

OK NHRA. You can go on to other issues because ALL these racers like running heads-up against cars with deep pocket owners or ones that are factored lightly. Looks like your AHFS is working properly. Good job NHRA.

Patrick Downing · 10-26-2010, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Stocker 2

Well I guess that ends the controversy of the DP and CJ cars being factored wrong. So no one will ever complain again when they get beat in a heads-up run.

OK NHRA. You can go on to other issues because ALL these racers like running heads-up against cars with deep pocket owners or ones that are factored lightly. Looks like your AHFS is working properly. Good job NHRA.

Here is a better solution for you. If you do not like how NHRA is operating go bracket race or race IHRA. No one is forcing you to be here. It’s pretty simple. Think of it like this, your watching T.V. and ESPN has on NASCAR, but you want to watch NHRA drag racing. Do you send a letter to ESPN and tell them that they are doing a bad job, and go to forums and degrade the NASCAR drivers and ESPN? or do you just change the channel?........OH and by the way. Guys with DEEP POCKETS have ALWAYS had an advantage in racing. This is not something that just recently happened.

Ed Wright · 10-26-2010, 11:30 AM

Bogus hp rating aside, Keith drove a great race on a crap race track. Congrats.

Mike Carr · 10-26-2010, 12:57 PM

Yes, Keith drove very well this weekend and deserved the win. After all the trouble and tragedy for the team, I am happy for David, and Keith. Chris said that they would qualify #1 at some point, and they did, and now have won a race, and I send my congrats to them. I'm sure over the past 2 1/2 weeks, Chris has had a huge smile on his face up above.

As far as the deep pockets post, you will always have that. It's not uncommon to see two racers with the exact same combination be 3-4 tenths apart. It can be due to deep pockets, harder work, or combination of the two. The issue with the Challengers and Mustangs will hopefully be fixed. If NHRA were to make the new cars run FX-style classes, the "deep pockets" could all run against each other and race, and spend, to their hearts content (as I don't personally know anyone with one of the new cars, I can't comment as to whether everyone with a new car really does have deep pockets). The DP/CJ cars are about the only two, super-underfactored cars in Stock, and with potential changes coming to the AHFS, the problems/advantages could possibly be negated.

I know a few local bracket racers that tried Stock Eliminator. They were very good drivers. One told me he was going back to brackets because Stock was "too hard and too complicated" and he "didn't like qualifying on one day and racing on another". He also "couldn't dial the car as well going to other tracks as he could at his home track, which he was used to". Another great local driver, when I tried to get him to bring his street car out to run our local tracks' IHRA Div race in FWD Stock. I explained to him the weight breaks, min wt, class Indexes, you can't dial over the Index, and if you run someone in your same class it's heads-up, his response was "Wow. That sounds complicated and hard. I think I'll just stick to what I'm doing".

We need a new t-shirt slogan and/or bumper sticker:

"Class Racing--it's not for everyone".

art leong · 10-26-2010, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Stocker 2

Then after you have met all 9 pages of Stock rules you pull up against a non-driver with deep pockets in a heads up run and he sends you home. Maybe that is a better way to race...if you're the one with deep pockets.

How many bracket racers plan or wish they could run stock or superstock? How many stock/superstock racers wish they could run brackets?
You are trying to level the field by taking the top down. Instead of making the bottom better

10-26-2010, 09:22 AM	#3
Patrick Downing Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 37 Likes: 1 Liked 4 Times in 1 Post	Re: Santangelo vs. Lynch Heads Up If you are referring to Keith with that statement then you better do some homework. Also with everything that the "Drooze" crew has gone through this season I would say that this win was well deserved. Great Job Guys!!!

10-26-2010, 11:30 AM	#6
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Santangelo vs. Lynch Heads Up Bogus hp rating aside, Keith drove a great race on a crap race track. Congrats. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA Last edited by Ed Wright; 10-26-2010 at 04:33 PM.

10-26-2010, 12:57 PM	#7
Mike Carr VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Enon Valley PA Posts: 1,650 Likes: 234 Liked 83 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Santangelo vs. Lynch Heads Up Yes, Keith drove very well this weekend and deserved the win. After all the trouble and tragedy for the team, I am happy for David, and Keith. Chris said that they would qualify #1 at some point, and they did, and now have won a race, and I send my congrats to them. I'm sure over the past 2 1/2 weeks, Chris has had a huge smile on his face up above. As far as the deep pockets post, you will always have that. It's not uncommon to see two racers with the exact same combination be 3-4 tenths apart. It can be due to deep pockets, harder work, or combination of the two. The issue with the Challengers and Mustangs will hopefully be fixed. If NHRA were to make the new cars run FX-style classes, the "deep pockets" could all run against each other and race, and spend, to their hearts content (as I don't personally know anyone with one of the new cars, I can't comment as to whether everyone with a new car really does have deep pockets). The DP/CJ cars are about the only two, super-underfactored cars in Stock, and with potential changes coming to the AHFS, the problems/advantages could possibly be negated. I know a few local bracket racers that tried Stock Eliminator. They were very good drivers. One told me he was going back to brackets because Stock was "too hard and too complicated" and he "didn't like qualifying on one day and racing on another". He also "couldn't dial the car as well going to other tracks as he could at his home track, which he was used to". Another great local driver, when I tried to get him to bring his street car out to run our local tracks' IHRA Div race in FWD Stock. I explained to him the weight breaks, min wt, class Indexes, you can't dial over the Index, and if you run someone in your same class it's heads-up, his response was "Wow. That sounds complicated and hard. I think I'll just stick to what I'm doing". We need a new t-shirt slogan and/or bumper sticker: "Class Racing--it's not for everyone". __________________ Mike Carr, Tri-State S/SS Association President Looking for 2015 S/SS Race Sponsors Contact me if interested buffdaddy_1302@hotmail.com (724) 510-5912

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10-26-2010, 08:19 AM	#1
Stocker 2 Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 137 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Santangelo vs. Lynch Heads Up Then after you have met all 9 pages of Stock rules you pull up against a non-driver with deep pockets in a heads up run and he sends you home. Maybe that is a better way to race...if you're the one with deep pockets.