HOME FORUM RULES CONTACT
     
   
   

Go Back   CLASS RACER FORUM > Class Racer Forums > Stock and Super Stock

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-17-2010, 03:36 PM   #1
davidhuff
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 928
Likes: 1
Liked 120 Times in 42 Posts
Default Re: Racing for Pinks!!!!! (reynolds style)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes View Post
I'd pick the one that came on a car that was showroom available
Showroom new around 40 years ago.LOL
davidhuff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2010, 10:10 PM   #2
art leong
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Richmond Hill, Georgia
Posts: 2,003
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default Re: Racing for Pinks!!!!! (reynolds style)

I think NHRA should take a look at the vin numbers of all cars to make sure thats the way they came from the factory.
A hemi car with a 4 speed should have a hemi and 4 speed in it, a 427 camaro should have a vin to match. Clones were never showroom available.
And any non matching cars should have to run FX.
__________________
Art Leong 2095 SS
art leong is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2010, 08:15 AM   #3
Alan Roehrich
Veteran Member
 
Alan Roehrich's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Murfreesboro TN
Posts: 5,118
Likes: 1,573
Liked 1,837 Times in 417 Posts
Default Re: Racing for Pinks!!!!! (reynolds style)

Quote:
Originally Posted by art leong View Post
I think NHRA should take a look at the vin numbers of all cars to make sure thats the way they came from the factory.
A hemi car with a 4 speed should have a hemi and 4 speed in it, a 427 camaro should have a vin to match. Clones were never showroom available.
And any non matching cars should have to run FX.
Art, with all due respect, I agree with a lot of what you say or post, but that has got to be about the stupidest idea I've ever heard. It's not even good sarcasm.

After all, I'm sure everyone is going to go buy numbers matching original muscle cars for $50K to $1M to race Stock Eliminator.

And no, in no way do "clones" compare to the new "factory cars", they're not even remotely similar. You're attempting to compare apples to horse turds.
__________________
Alan Roehrich
212A G/S
Alan Roehrich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2010, 09:42 AM   #4
Chad Rhodes
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Where the Green Grass Grows, AL
Posts: 2,375
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Default Re: Racing for Pinks!!!!! (reynolds style)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich View Post
Art, with all due respect, I agree with a lot of what you say or post, but that has got to be about the stupidest idea I've ever heard. It's not even good sarcasm.

After all, I'm sure everyone is going to go buy numbers matching original muscle cars for $50K to $1M to race Stock Eliminator.

And no, in no way do "clones" compare to the new "factory cars", they're not even remotely similar. You're attempting to compare apples to horse turds.
apples to horse turds, that's a new one on me Alan
__________________
Chad Rhodes 2113 I/SA
Chad Rhodes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2010, 10:34 AM   #5
Alan Roehrich
Veteran Member
 
Alan Roehrich's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Murfreesboro TN
Posts: 5,118
Likes: 1,573
Liked 1,837 Times in 417 Posts
Default Re: Racing for Pinks!!!!! (reynolds style)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes View Post
apples to horse turds, that's a new one on me Alan
Rednecks call horse turds road apples when in polite company.
__________________
Alan Roehrich
212A G/S
Alan Roehrich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2010, 09:59 AM   #6
art leong
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Richmond Hill, Georgia
Posts: 2,003
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default Re: Racing for Pinks!!!!! (reynolds style)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich View Post
Art, with all due respect, I agree with a lot of what you say or post, but that has got to be about the stupidest idea I've ever heard. It's not even good sarcasm.

After all, I'm sure everyone is going to go buy numbers matching original muscle cars for $50K to $1M to race Stock Eliminator.

And no, in no way do "clones" compare to the new "factory cars", they're not even remotely similar. You're attempting to compare apples to horse turds.
I'm just saying that factory avalible is a very very long stretch.
Comparing most of today's stock eliminator cars to assembly line cars. Is attempting to compare apples to horse turds. My last car was a real stocker I could go to a junkyard or dealer and buy everypart on it. Except for the slicks.
I agree thew HP factors of the new cars is off quite a bit. But it isn't the first time, I remember the 455 Superduty Pontiac That I think was just over 300 horsepower, And that was when there was go fast racing.
__________________
Art Leong 2095 SS
art leong is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2010, 10:39 AM   #7
Alan Roehrich
Veteran Member
 
Alan Roehrich's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Murfreesboro TN
Posts: 5,118
Likes: 1,573
Liked 1,837 Times in 417 Posts
Default Re: Racing for Pinks!!!!! (reynolds style)

Quote:
Originally Posted by art leong View Post
I'm just saying that factory avalible is a very very long stretch.
Comparing most of today's stock eliminator cars to assembly line cars. Is attempting to compare apples to horse turds. My last car was a real stocker I could go to a junkyard or dealer and buy everypart on it. Except for the slicks.
I agree thew HP factors of the new cars is off quite a bit. But it isn't the first time, I remember the 455 Superduty Pontiac That I think was just over 300 horsepower, And that was when there was go fast racing.
Art, just as an example, we have an engine with two "replacement" items, which, it turns out, are not a huge advantage on a 427/425 car. The 401 heads, that we take a 10HP hit on, and the 359 intake, many of which don't show a real improvement over the old GM 163 intake, probably because the 359 intake is an almost direct copy of the 163. We may even run an iron head 427 next year, with the 163 intake.

The factory cars are a lot more "enhanced", and have a way soft factor.
__________________
Alan Roehrich
212A G/S
Alan Roehrich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2010, 10:53 AM   #8
Alan Roehrich
Veteran Member
 
Alan Roehrich's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Murfreesboro TN
Posts: 5,118
Likes: 1,573
Liked 1,837 Times in 417 Posts
Default Re: Racing for Pinks!!!!! (reynolds style)

By the way, congratulations to Jeff Teuton, he won the race, with a killer 0.003 light. We blew the tires right off the car at the hit. Track prep yesterday was, sadly, very inconsistent, many races were decided by a very poor starting line. When M/SA wagons are blowing the tires off at the hit, there's a problem. Considering we had Jay Hullinger down to run the race, I was both surprised and disappointed. I sure wish he'd brought Redman with him.

Our new director was very conspicuous in his absence. Word is he was seen up near the tower, and around "high dollar" pits, Alcohol, Comp, and Top Sportsman. Given he had Bret Kepner's hearty endorsement, I expected him to at least make an appearance or two in the staging lanes to meet people and shake hands. I was very disappointed. Hey, I'm nobody, but I didn't hear of him greeting any class racers in the lanes.

We had a great time with Jeff, before and after the race. We tried to put that orange Camaro in his trailer, but the ramp kept closing before we could get the car on it. Must be a Mopar thing. We were going to put it in Kevin Helms' trailer, but for some reason, you can't get a 69 Camaro in Kevin's trailer if it doesn't have a clutch pedal. Go figure. So we shook hands and took our junk back to Tennessee.
__________________
Alan Roehrich
212A G/S
Alan Roehrich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2010, 02:23 PM   #9
Mike Pearson
VIP Member
 
Mike Pearson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,452
Likes: 615
Liked 1,937 Times in 582 Posts
Default Re: Racing for Pinks!!!!! (reynolds style)

Alan,

We are thinking alike on the new division director. I would have thought his first order of buisness would be to meet some of the racers. The race did run smooth but the starting line was lousy for me on saturday. My transmission broke first round on the starting line. I was first out right after the top sportsman cars. I saw the tire marks from the car in front of me and I thought to myself I am in trouble.

On a positive note. The track was open for parking all night long. The Silver Dollar crew is some of the most racer friendly of any track that we run. I enjoy going there just for that reason.
__________________
Mike Pearson 2485 SS
Mike Pearson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2010, 04:22 PM   #10
art leong
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Richmond Hill, Georgia
Posts: 2,003
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default Re: Racing for Pinks!!!!! (reynolds style)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich View Post
Art, just as an example, we have an engine with two "replacement" items, which, it turns out, are not a huge advantage on a 427/425 car. The 401 heads, that we take a 10HP hit on, and the 359 intake, many of which don't show a real improvement over the old GM 163 intake, probably because the 359 intake is an almost direct copy of the 163. We may even run an iron head 427 next year, with the 163 intake.

The factory cars are a lot more "enhanced", and have a way soft factor.
I thought all 427 Camaros came with iron heads? I thought the aluminum head was only available on the 396?
__________________
Art Leong 2095 SS
art leong is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:29 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright Class Racer.com. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners.