Racing for Pinks!!!!! (reynolds style)

[Chad Rhodes]

I'd pick the one that came on a car that was showroom available

[davidhuff]

Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes

I'd pick the one that came on a car that was showroom available

Showroom new around 40 years ago.LOL

[art leong]

I think NHRA should take a look at the vin numbers of all cars to make sure thats the way they came from the factory.
A hemi car with a 4 speed should have a hemi and 4 speed in it, a 427 camaro should have a vin to match. Clones were never showroom available.
And any non matching cars should have to run FX.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by art leong

I think NHRA should take a look at the vin numbers of all cars to make sure thats the way they came from the factory.
A hemi car with a 4 speed should have a hemi and 4 speed in it, a 427 camaro should have a vin to match. Clones were never showroom available.
And any non matching cars should have to run FX.

Art, with all due respect, I agree with a lot of what you say or post, but that has got to be about the stupidest idea I've ever heard. It's not even good sarcasm.

After all, I'm sure everyone is going to go buy numbers matching original muscle cars for $50K to $1M to race Stock Eliminator.

And no, in no way do "clones" compare to the new "factory cars", they're not even remotely similar. You're attempting to compare apples to horse turds.

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Art, with all due respect, I agree with a lot of what you say or post, but that has got to be about the stupidest idea I've ever heard. It's not even good sarcasm.

After all, I'm sure everyone is going to go buy numbers matching original muscle cars for $50K to $1M to race Stock Eliminator.

And no, in no way do "clones" compare to the new "factory cars", they're not even remotely similar. You're attempting to compare apples to horse turds.

apples to horse turds, that's a new one on me Alan

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes

apples to horse turds, that's a new one on me Alan

Rednecks call horse turds road apples when in polite company.

[art leong]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Art, with all due respect, I agree with a lot of what you say or post, but that has got to be about the stupidest idea I've ever heard. It's not even good sarcasm.

After all, I'm sure everyone is going to go buy numbers matching original muscle cars for $50K to $1M to race Stock Eliminator.

And no, in no way do "clones" compare to the new "factory cars", they're not even remotely similar. You're attempting to compare apples to horse turds.

I'm just saying that factory avalible is a very very long stretch.
Comparing most of today's stock eliminator cars to assembly line cars. Is attempting to compare apples to horse turds. My last car was a real stocker I could go to a junkyard or dealer and buy everypart on it. Except for the slicks.
I agree thew HP factors of the new cars is off quite a bit. But it isn't the first time, I remember the 455 Superduty Pontiac That I think was just over 300 horsepower, And that was when there was go fast racing.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by art leong

I'm just saying that factory avalible is a very very long stretch.
Comparing most of today's stock eliminator cars to assembly line cars. Is attempting to compare apples to horse turds. My last car was a real stocker I could go to a junkyard or dealer and buy everypart on it. Except for the slicks.
I agree thew HP factors of the new cars is off quite a bit. But it isn't the first time, I remember the 455 Superduty Pontiac That I think was just over 300 horsepower, And that was when there was go fast racing.

Art, just as an example, we have an engine with two "replacement" items, which, it turns out, are not a huge advantage on a 427/425 car. The 401 heads, that we take a 10HP hit on, and the 359 intake, many of which don't show a real improvement over the old GM 163 intake, probably because the 359 intake is an almost direct copy of the 163. We may even run an iron head 427 next year, with the 163 intake.

The factory cars are a lot more "enhanced", and have a way soft factor.

[Alan Roehrich]

By the way, congratulations to Jeff Teuton, he won the race, with a killer 0.003 light. We blew the tires right off the car at the hit. Track prep yesterday was, sadly, very inconsistent, many races were decided by a very poor starting line. When M/SA wagons are blowing the tires off at the hit, there's a problem. Considering we had Jay Hullinger down to run the race, I was both surprised and disappointed. I sure wish he'd brought Redman with him.

Our new director was very conspicuous in his absence. Word is he was seen up near the tower, and around "high dollar" pits, Alcohol, Comp, and Top Sportsman. Given he had Bret Kepner's hearty endorsement, I expected him to at least make an appearance or two in the staging lanes to meet people and shake hands. I was very disappointed. Hey, I'm nobody, but I didn't hear of him greeting any class racers in the lanes.

We had a great time with Jeff, before and after the race. We tried to put that orange Camaro in his trailer, but the ramp kept closing before we could get the car on it. Must be a Mopar thing. We were going to put it in Kevin Helms' trailer, but for some reason, you can't get a 69 Camaro in Kevin's trailer if it doesn't have a clutch pedal. Go figure. So we shook hands and took our junk back to Tennessee.

[art leong]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Art, just as an example, we have an engine with two "replacement" items, which, it turns out, are not a huge advantage on a 427/425 car. The 401 heads, that we take a 10HP hit on, and the 359 intake, many of which don't show a real improvement over the old GM 163 intake, probably because the 359 intake is an almost direct copy of the 163. We may even run an iron head 427 next year, with the 163 intake.

The factory cars are a lot more "enhanced", and have a way soft factor.

I thought all 427 Camaros came with iron heads? I thought the aluminum head was only available on the 396?