2011 Dodge Challenger V10 Drag Pak

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes

Jeff, while an LS9 powered camaro rated at 425 would be cool..................i wouldn't want to have to race it heads up either. This has nothing to do with brand, at least from my prespective. Just my .02

I do not think Camaro and GM fans will have to wait long...2012 Camaro Z28 with 6.2L Supercharged V8 as used in the CTS-V.

http://www.automotiveaddicts.com/144...y-photographed

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96645

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by SSDiv6

I do not think Camaro and GM fans will have to wait long...2012 Camaro Z28 with 6.2L Supercharged V8 as used in the CTS-V.

http://www.automotiveaddicts.com/144...y-photographed

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96645

those are the street cars, and without the 425hp rating and 3250ish weight its just a portly muscle car, no threat to a drag pack or CJ at all.

[Stocker 449]

Good thing they will probably be classified in something like G or H....... My max wedge is becoming more and more obsolete as the days go by!

[Richard Grant]

Good point, Michael. Jeff doesn't seem to realize that most of us are not wealthy or own a dealership. It doesn't matter about the brand. All older stockers are being hurt by the new bogus cars.
You run a mopar, I run a chevy, RJ runs a ford. Who cares about the brand. A loss is a loss no matter if it's a chevy beating a chevy or a mopar beating a chevy.

[Hokes Racing]

This is what a 2010 viper has

With a 1mm bore increase over the previous generation engine, the new 8.4-liter (510 cubic inch) A356 T6 aluminum block 90 degree V10 motor now achieves 600 horsepower at 6,000 rpm and 560 lb-ft of torque at 5,100 rpm. An assembled steel articulating CamInCam® camshaft, that allows variable exhaust valve timing, along with the new VENOM engine controller, with massive processing power, provides the necessary technology to achieve these very high output levels and still meet idle and OBD requirements. Other new features for the V10 include: - New cylinder heads with larger valves, CNC chambers and throats - Flat top piston with 10.2:1 compression ratio - Race tested swinging oil pickup from the Dodge Viper Competition Coupe - Dual electronic throttle bodies (ETC) - Low restriction induction system with dual mass airflow control (MAF) - Air-gap headers and low restriction exhaust system - Individual high energy coils for each cylinder - Platinum tip spa

[Paul Sarvas]

Originally Posted by Hokes Racing

This is what a 2010 viper has

With a 1mm bore increase over the previous generation engine, the new 8.4-liter (510 cubic inch) A356 T6 aluminum block 90 degree V10 motor now achieves 600 horsepower at 6,000 rpm and 560 lb-ft of torque at 5,100 rpm. An assembled steel articulating CamInCam® camshaft, that allows variable exhaust valve timing, along with the new VENOM engine controller, with massive processing power, provides the necessary technology to achieve these very high output levels and still meet idle and OBD requirements. Other new features for the V10 include: - New cylinder heads with larger valves, CNC chambers and throats - Flat top piston with 10.2:1 compression ratio - Race tested swinging oil pickup from the Dodge Viper Competition Coupe - Dual electronic throttle bodies (ETC) - Low restriction induction system with dual mass airflow control (MAF) - Air-gap headers and low restriction exhaust system - Individual high energy coils for each cylinder - Platinum tip spa

Lanny you're a bowtie guy... Viper??


pS

[Ron E]

Originally Posted by SSDiv6

I do not think Camaro and GM fans will have to wait long...2012 Camaro Z28 with 6.2L Supercharged V8 as used in the CTS-V.

http://www.automotiveaddicts.com/144...y-photographed

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96645

I hope GM doesn't go with a blower. Even the die-hard Ford fans I know are a little embarrassed by the blown mustangs. I think the v10 Challenger would be a great street car, but Ford and GM don't offer any engines of similar size, so I don't see where it even fits a class.

[Peter Ash]

Heck, even the dinosaur NASCAR is finally moving forward with EFI and distinguishable body types (Mustang, Challenger, Camry), to promote new vehicle recognition! NHRA is just leading the way.

I believe the iceburg has truelly been flipped in a new direction, with purpose.

Peter

[Jared Jordan]

I'm not sure for whom I sympathize more: the racers with the "old" combos or the guys that put $100k into their "new" rides just to see the factory build a better (read: quicker) mousetrap the following year. I suppose for those that can afford to keep up with the Joneses it really doesn't matter.

To me, the idea of a package car is cheapened by the high volume of these cars that are hitting the racetrack. The package cars of the 60's are popular and valuable mainly because there aren't very many of them. Owning a Hurst car or an A990 car puts you in an exclusive club of sorts. Anyone think the '68 Dart/Cuda packages would be as popular as they are if Mother Mopar had popped out updated versions in subsequent years? Same with the '64 T-Bolt, '69 ZL1, etc...

As for this new creation, I agree with Jeff Lee: 850 hp doesn't seem the least bit impossible. The 5.7's make a little over 1.75 hp/ci. The 512" V-10 won't be as efficient as the smaller engine, but it only has to make 1.66 hp/ci to make 850. Let's rate it at 385 and call it a B/SA. Sounds about right...

[Dgal]

Originally Posted by Jared Jordan

I'm not sure for whom I sympathize more: the racers with the "old" combos or the guys that put $100k into their "new" rides just to see the factory build a better (read: quicker) mousetrap the following year. I suppose for those that can afford to keep up with the Joneses it really doesn't matter.

Jared,

I have thought about this, also. It is my opinion the real impact will be on guys that bought the new car combos. They will have had 3 years in some cases of an advantage to the older cars, but next year looks like they will be banging it out against each other. This can turn into an very, very expensive bracket car for them. Our car is just a very expensive bracket car. Not a very, very expensive one.

Don