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Old 09-19-2010, 12:42 PM   #41
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How does a book published in 1987 include a "recent study"?
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Old 09-19-2010, 12:46 PM   #42
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Like what?Any examples?
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Old 09-19-2010, 12:54 PM   #43
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so a guy goes out to dinner has a few drinks and hes a dirtbag? GET REAL................................
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Old 09-19-2010, 01:07 PM   #44
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It's a GM conspiracy!! LOL
Maybe not as funny as you would think. Say you had a car that was barely qualifying or not qualifying and you saw someone who had one of the top qualifiers at a restaurant/bar and he was consuming his share.........would it not be tempting to put a bug in an NHRA official's ear? So you're random testing is not so random.............. I'm just sayin'

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Old 09-19-2010, 01:21 PM   #45
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The rule does include race officials. I'm not sure Tom is considered an official. Maybe the testers could go up in the tower and ask old good times Tommy blow into one of their little machines.
I disagree with this statement. I was pulled for a random testing at Pomona a few years back (they gave me the notice in the staging lanes before one of our qualifying runs). When I reported for duty, there was a NHRA official having to do the same thing. I was told by the medical personnel that their testing pool involved all racers and employees.
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Lots of chemicals used at the races contain substances that can cause readings. Brake cleaners(declorinated of course) can be absorbed thru the skin or inhaled. Many types of cleaners. The brake cleaner is alcohol under pressure. As mentioned breath mints along with mouth washes and countless other products will produce goofy readings.
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First off, i don't condone anyone drinking and driving, whether it be on the street or the track. I do think they may have sugar coated things a bit in the PR statement, however I'd also say that a lot of sportsman racers should be glad they don't walk through the lanes with a breathalyzer before first round sunday.
My thoughts exactly! That would be one way for NHRA to eliminate 1/4 of the pesky Sportsman cars though after taking our money!

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I got selected at Winternationals in '94. I haven't had a can of beer since I was 18, so it became a big joke around the guys who knew me there, so we went to the trailer, breathed in the machine and gave a pee sample, which was put into two sample vials and sent to two labs. The whole thing took less than 20 minutes, I never heard a word of follow up later, and the whole thing is just part of racing. It didn't offend me, insult me, nor did I take it personally.I had 24 hours to respond, but we went right after the second of our two time trials that day. I sure enough let everybody know that they were out there and randomly selecting racers, and to be careful of that. Years earlier, while bracket racing at OCIR, someone I knew had a habit of smoking a joint in his car in the lanes to calm down and focus on the tree. I don't remember him red lighting too often,either.
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I assume this post won't last long but ... I just can not hold back

Bruce you are way out of line as the Moderator - you are suppose to censor posts like yours

Egregious, stupid, irresponsible, uncalled for slander and liable

Free speech does not give you the right (especially as the moderator of this forum) to say what ever you want - when ever you want - where ever you want

If the administrator of this forum does not take swift action and reprimand you I hope the Johnson's get word of your remarks and pursue public and legal action against you and this forum

Clean up this act

I am positive you have no first hand knowledge about what you said - I don't believe you are on a first name basis with Allen

I doubt you even know him but if you do go apologize for what you said

OK - I am going to post this - even though I think it will not be met with fair even handed reasonable rational action
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Hey Andys Dad, I don't really see anything wrong with what Bruce said in his post and if you knew Bruce and I you would know that we don't agree on many things. If he blew an .024 AND you drop .02 for every hour that you don't have a drink AND he waited 11 hours then he must have been pretty well slammed. At least slammed beyond "social drinking".
I don't know the man so I don't know if he has a problem or not but I wouldn't want to race him first round.
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