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Old 09-17-2010, 11:28 AM   #11
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Michael, that's another question for another thread. I am Just pointing out money in racing go hand and hand. Speed coast money, the 60's are no different then today, except that there are more people with more money to spend.

Jack made three points, and this is just my perspective on how I see this sport.
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Old 09-17-2010, 11:32 AM   #12
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Looking at Charlotte there isn't much Nostagia left in Super Stock:

Breakdown of the field by year:
1960's = 6
1970's = 1
1980's = 8
1990's = 18
2000's = 12
2010's = 3


May again support that cars too old or too new cost too much for most people.
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Old 09-17-2010, 11:40 AM   #13
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I have nothing but respect for all of you folks, for you continue to do this stuff. But when it comes to old school vs. new school, it seems to me that the cost is taking it's toll. Also I look for new blood in the sport as a guage to it's future. I wonder how many would be there if not for daddy, uncle, brother etc. that lead/provided the way. How much new blood is actually comming in. I am working hard to get there, but don't have any of the previous mentioned resources to help. I did'nt even have anyone in the neighborhood to look up to as a kid. It's tough working hard on your car, but even tougher when nobody showed you what to do! I will be old school, and then some....but I will be proud because I did it all by myself. Just like you guys did back in the day. I feel that the cost and up hill battle against well funded "teams"/"new school" is making it easier for many racers to talk themselves out of going. That's why I see so much parking lot there at Charlotte in Tom's photos. Hope to add one new name in 2011, and look foward to sittin beside ya somewhere down the road !


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I have raced SS in D4 for 3 years. Every race I always ask is there any new cars to look at? The answer is no. It's the same guys every event. What's going to happen when they give it up? My son is 21 and he says all the young guys are into 10.5 cars, outlaw type stuff, etc not S and SS. I love my Super Stocker, but it's so damn expensive. I broke 1 Jesel rocker a few weeks ago and about fell out of my chair when I called them to order a new one. It didn't even come with the adjuster or nut either. I need to find a cheaper hobby. LOL
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Old 09-17-2010, 11:50 AM   #14
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I have raced SS in D4 for 3 years. Every race I always ask is there any new cars to look at? The answer is no. It's the same guys every event. What's going to happen when they give it up? My son is 21 and he says all the young guys are into 10.5 cars, outlaw type stuff, etc not S and SS. I love my Super Stocker, but it's so damn expensive. I broke 1 Jesel rocker a few weeks ago and about fell out of my chair when I called them to order a new one. It didn't even come with the adjuster or nut either. I need to find a cheaper hobby. LOL
Buy or build a sreet rod???? No rules per say. As long as its safe and DOT legal build it how you see fit. You can use it 7 days a week and the rod runs/shows dont cost you $200-$300 per even to enter. You not going to win all the time anyway if ever. No expensive tow rigs/motor homes required. Maybe not as much fun as making a pass down the track but its still fun and a lot less work. Resale value is worth more also if your into the popular years and models. WTF ! Im going racing....dont pay attention to this.....lol.
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Old 09-17-2010, 11:56 AM   #15
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Tear down is the result of not enough personnel. They don't or do want to hire the man power. I do not blame the racer for pushing the rules as far as he can go. That is true in any form of racing

Kenny,that's partially true.Stuff goes through the barn now, that when Ca. let the local tech people do their job, that would have never flown.NHRA just doesn't want to deal with it,either through laziness or fear of legal action,or both.
As far as the $$$ aspect, I agree,it always took $$$ in the upper classes.
A far as civility,There's a general lack of it in all aspects of our lives now.
It's a changing world, not a better world.
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Tear down is the result of not enough personnel. They don't or do want to hire the man power. I do not blame the racer for pushing the rules as far as he can go. That is true in any form of racing

Kenny,that's partially true.Stuff goes through the barn now, that when Ca. let the local tech people do their job, that would have never flown.NHRA just doesn't want to deal with it,either through laziness or fear of legal action,or both.
As far as the $$$ aspect, I agree,it always took $$$ in the upper classes.
A far as civility,There's a general lack of it in all aspects of our lives now.
It's a changing world, not a better world.
Well put. There is one common denominator as regards to Tech. There is not a leader in Tech that has the gumption and common sense as Farmer did.
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Tear down is the result of not enough personnel. They don't or do want to hire the man power. I do not blame the racer for pushing the rules as far as he can go. That is true in any form of racing.
Kenny-- this simply is not the case - here in D1 and probably other divisions they would like to hire new tech people but there just are not any new applicants to fill these positions as its a hard - low paying - thankless position -- and yes , I've been there and done that .....................if you know of a good candidate get them in contact with the Division office -or get them to me and i'll point them in the right direction- we'll all be glad you did .
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Old 09-17-2010, 12:54 PM   #18
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Buy or build a sreet rod???? No rules per say. As long as its safe and DOT legal build it how you see fit. You can use it 7 days a week and the rod runs/shows dont cost you $200-$300 per even to enter. You not going to win all the time anyway if ever. No expensive tow rigs/motor homes required. Maybe not as much fun as making a pass down the track but its still fun and a lot less work. Resale value is worth more also if your into the popular years and models. WTF ! Im going racing....dont pay attention to this.....lol.
I bracket race my 31 Ford at the nostalgia races. Allmost as much fun and like you said a whole bunch cheaper but if you have to hire some one to build your hot rod the cost far surpasses the DPs and CJs in a heart beat.
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I bracket race my 31 Ford at the nostalgia races. Allmost as much fun and like you said a whole bunch cheaper but if you have to hire some one to build your hot rod the cost far surpasses the DPs and CJs in a heart beat.
Cool....I can build a hot rod far less expensive than a DP OR a new Mustang or even a 69 Camaro . I wont even think about a Hemi $$$$$$ car of any kind. I guess it all depends on what your able to do on your own and how fancy you want one.
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