Titanium Valves Allowed in S/S? - Page 3

Bob Mulry · 09-15-2010, 05:04 PM

A few years ago I spoke to Mr. Lang about allowing head studs in Stock Eliminator, he responded by saying that they would increase the cost of building a racecar. The difference between head bolts and head studs is about $40

I responded that by using head studs, the frequent replacement of blocks due to pulled threads from stripped head bolt holes could be reduced.

My request fell on deaf ears.....but in NHRA's world it would make sense to allow Ti valves in Super Stock

Once it became optional, it would become mandatory due to a performance increase

Go figure

Tony Janes · 09-15-2010, 06:48 PM

Terry: ok stock appearing intake manifolds

X-TECH MAN · 09-15-2010, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony Janes

Terry: ok stock appearing intake manifolds

OK.....LOL. We ALL know whats going on. I wish Jr. stock had never died. It was fun, inexpensive, and just as competitive. HISTORY !

Alan Roehrich · 09-15-2010, 07:45 PM

Yeah, we need $60 a piece valves, and another 1000 RPM, added to a class that hasn't seen a purse increase in a decade, and has seen the contingency payout drop by around 50% in the last 2 years.

It's time we stopped the frikkin escalation in the sportsman classes. It has long since gotten way out of control, with stuff we don't need that has only made the racing way too expensive, and hasn't improved anything. As a long time Super Stock racer said a while back when I was in his shop, "The sorry SOB that gave the okay for ported and polished heads in Super Stock ought to have them all stuck where the sun never shines".

And yes, we're going Super Stock racing. The car should be on the track in 3-4 weeks or so.

Pat6868 · 09-15-2010, 08:34 PM

Geez, the damn bitchen that goes on, maybe stock should mean real stock, as in pure stock.You know, pure stock as Terry wrote the rules for. Then maybe the average guy could afford it. Or as NHRA says " Entry Level" Just my 02 Pat.

mopar68 · 09-15-2010, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawn Blair

David, I agree this would not be a good rule change. What's next?

Shawn 6383

Nitrous oxide!

M68

mopar68 · 09-15-2010, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dyno

Already allowed in many S/S classes. SS/AS, SS/BS, SS/CS. Probably others. Dyno

Those are pseudo-S/S classes.

M68

SSGN · 09-15-2010, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mopar68

Nitrous oxide!

M68

Why have rules,let it all hang out and lets see who is really fast.Not much stock left in Stock or super stock

scott gray · 09-15-2010, 10:22 PM

titanium valves WTF, Where the hell does this stop? Chamber mods, aftermarket cranks, etc etc. Why change the rules to accomodate those that do not follow them [ cheaters]. Titanium valves are already in use like the cranks and chamber mods were before becoming legal to do so. Throw the cheaters out rather than change the rules for them. Why stick it in everyones ***** that does the right thing. NO TITANIUM VALVES ! This is SUPERSTOCK not prostock. Oh but we need change, look where our change is gettin us. Leave the rules as they were written.

Jess Suter · 09-15-2010, 10:23 PM

I cant stand it anymore
The simple solution is to implement the valve spring rule-period! Stock spring pressure. There would be no 9800 rpm hemis or 9800 rpm anything else. IMO this was the downfall of stock. Lower rpm no acid heads or manifolds needed. No $1000 lifters no $7500 heads. Wouldnt matter cause they cant flow at lower rpm. Just my 2 cents

09-15-2010, 05:04 PM	#21
Bob Mulry VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Coarsegold, CA Posts: 1,016 Likes: 57 Liked 320 Times in 102 Posts	Re: Titanium Valves Allowed in S/S? A few years ago I spoke to Mr. Lang about allowing head studs in Stock Eliminator, he responded by saying that they would increase the cost of building a racecar. The difference between head bolts and head studs is about $40 I responded that by using head studs, the frequent replacement of blocks due to pulled threads from stripped head bolt holes could be reduced. My request fell on deaf ears.....but in NHRA's world it would make sense to allow Ti valves in Super Stock Once it became optional, it would become mandatory due to a performance increase Go figure __________________ Bob Mulry 7516 STK A & M Motorsports

09-15-2010, 06:48 PM	#22
Tony Janes Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Whittier, Ca Posts: 830 Likes: 94 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Titanium Valves Allowed in S/S? Terry: ok stock appearing intake manifolds __________________ Tony Janes 7941 STK, SS

09-15-2010, 07:45 PM	#24
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,105 Likes: 1,564 Liked 1,789 Times in 408 Posts	Re: Titanium Valves Allowed in S/S? Yeah, we need $60 a piece valves, and another 1000 RPM, added to a class that hasn't seen a purse increase in a decade, and has seen the contingency payout drop by around 50% in the last 2 years. It's time we stopped the frikkin escalation in the sportsman classes. It has long since gotten way out of control, with stuff we don't need that has only made the racing way too expensive, and hasn't improved anything. As a long time Super Stock racer said a while back when I was in his shop, "The sorry SOB that gave the okay for ported and polished heads in Super Stock ought to have them all stuck where the sun never shines". And yes, we're going Super Stock racing. The car should be on the track in 3-4 weeks or so. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S Last edited by Alan Roehrich; 09-15-2010 at 07:50 PM.

09-15-2010, 08:34 PM	#25
Pat6868 Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 102 Likes: 6 Liked 88 Times in 28 Posts	Re: Titanium Valves Allowed in S/S? Geez, the damn bitchen that goes on, maybe stock should mean real stock, as in pure stock.You know, pure stock as Terry wrote the rules for. Then maybe the average guy could afford it. Or as NHRA says " Entry Level" Just my 02 Pat.

09-15-2010, 10:22 PM	#29
scott gray Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 21 Likes: 0 Liked 27 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Titanium Valves Allowed in S/S? titanium valves WTF, Where the hell does this stop? Chamber mods, aftermarket cranks, etc etc. Why change the rules to accomodate those that do not follow them [ cheaters]. Titanium valves are already in use like the cranks and chamber mods were before becoming legal to do so. Throw the cheaters out rather than change the rules for them. Why stick it in everyones ***** that does the right thing. NO TITANIUM VALVES ! This is SUPERSTOCK not prostock. Oh but we need change, look where our change is gettin us. Leave the rules as they were written.

09-15-2010, 10:23 PM	#30
Jess Suter Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 36 Likes: 7 Liked 7 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Titanium Valves Allowed in S/S? I cant stand it anymore The simple solution is to implement the valve spring rule-period! Stock spring pressure. There would be no 9800 rpm hemis or 9800 rpm anything else. IMO this was the downfall of stock. Lower rpm no acid heads or manifolds needed. No $1000 lifters no $7500 heads. Wouldnt matter cause they cant flow at lower rpm. Just my 2 cents __________________ Jess Suter 7305 Stock/SS Duster "life is not a rehearsal"

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