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Go right to the expert , Jerry MacNeish , he is the foremost authority on Camaro's and has written several books about them.
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I agree with Dave Ley , Jerry is the leading expert on 67-69 camaro's ... Mainly 69 Z-28 's he is the Best & know's where most of them are hidden ... Call or e-mail him you won't be sorry ...
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As far as looking for an early Camaro , E Bay and Cars-on-line will give you an idea of what is out there. If you are looking at a real COPO 9561 car (steel head 427 ) be prepared to talk to your accountant. I have been to a lot of shows and have seen some fantastic recreations of of these cars --right down to the correct block and head casting , carb numbers, trans and rearend code numbers. A COPO car recreation pops up every so often on EBAY. The more correct the the more the money. Prices are also vary with the season. e.g---going into fall & winter prices will be more negotiable and in the spring the number will be higher. Spend some time to learn as much as you can about what you want and it will be a much more enjoyable experience.-----John
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Jim Boburka has a dynacorn 69 Z-28 that is a .900 to1.10 under stocker,had a article in jan 2010 drag racing action magazine,where he said the panels fit better than he expected.he did a awsome job on this car and it could pass for the real deal ,car looks flawless and large coin i would guess,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Dave -- You're spot on .........Jerry is the most knowledgeable person I've ever met on these cars .As you know I've been a '69 Camaro owner since 1969 and he amazes me with the things he keeps pointing out .As for books he has written -- none finer for sure as he is the expert everyone seeks out .And he's right here on our board ..................z28camaroman .
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Dick,
The place to go online for anything related to first generation Camaros is www.camaros.net There is even a member ot 2 that worked on the assembly line where camaros were being produced back then that offer a lot of information about these cars. Many camaro experts reside there and can provide you with pretty accurate evaluations of what a first generation camaro is worth. There is a forum there titled' What's It Worth', and posting pictures is recommended for a better approximation on the worth of one of these cars. In response to some posts about deciphering certain Camaros as to how they came equipped from the factory the 1967 model is certainly the easiest by reading the trim tag and VIN. Certain alpha numeric codes were used for SS, RS, and options. The 68 model is the hardest to decipher. The information on the TT was reduced and only someone presenting full documentation or certain clues will offer data to verify if a car was an SS or a Z-28 or a base model car. The 69 model started out in the same boat as the 68 in regards to the info on the TT. After a few months the Norwood OH produced cars had 'X-codes' which helps to determine what a certain car came equipped with. For instance the X-22 was a 396 SS with alot of styling trim, the x-33 was a dressed up Z-28, the X-44 was a base model car, the X-55 was a 350 SS, the X-66 was a 396 SS without much dress up trim and the X-77 was a z-28 without much styling trim. The X-11 throws a curveball in the mess as about 10% of them were SS 350 models. Many COPO 427 camaros in 69 came with the X-44 tag although they represented a small percentage of actuall X-44 cars. Not all COPO 427 cars were X-44 however. None of the Los Angeles (Van Nuys plant) '69s had X-codes. Beware that these tags are being faked and some unscrupulous people are taking valueable trim tags off of junked cars and putting them on base model cars. Some ways to tell a tag has been faked or put on another car can be done by scrutinizing the dum dum used or what options allegedly came with the car and then verifying when the factory actually started using that option or that certain tagged part. www.camaros.org is a fantastic place to go online to help decipher certain codes on engines, rears, X-codes and etc. I would disagree with who ever said not to buy one of these cars that had some or most or all of the panels replaced. Nothing could be worse than buying a car for 20k plus or more just to have the paint or bodywork srart to come unglued after a year or so. I have a X-55 (hugger orange, AC,4speed 350 SS) and a X-77 Z-28 , I bought both cars in certain stages of metal replacement so I could finish them and know what I have. I can't say all of what I posted above is 100% correct, but it should be pretty close. Anyone buying a 'numbers' type of first generation Camaro would certainly serve themselves well by purchasing one or more of Jerry's books, or hiring him for his services. |
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Great thoughts. As for Numbers matching , that isnt my goal. As for RARE original my banker and I as still healing from the purchase of the fantom Z-11 car that vaporized after the money was paid. ( the seller has another year of shall we say "confinement") but I dont have the money.
I want a nice looking car with a BB. and no rust. Reallly good suggestions and I will take them to heart as I decide. Thanks. Dick |
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