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Old 08-11-2010, 06:55 PM   #1
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Here is Carl Olson's summary of what happened:

http://www.northernthunder.com/facing.html
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Old 08-11-2010, 07:43 PM   #2
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That interview with Carl Olsen took place in the early 90s.Fast forward to 2010.What worked then certainly hasn't worked in the 21st century.
They had a grip on the rules then,the economy was going along fine,multi crew teams weren't here yet,the payouts and contingency weren't rock bottom yet and Olsen was a master of understatement and smoke and mirrors in his assessment of the transition.
Soooooo,basically we (sportsman racer in general) got screwed for the benefit of the pros and the upper management of NHRA.That's how I interpret the situation.
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That interview with Carl Olsen took place in the early 90s.Fast forward to 2010.What worked then certainly hasn't worked in the 21st century.
They had a grip on the rules then,the economy was going along fine,multi crew teams weren't here yet,the payouts and contingency weren't rock bottom yet and Olsen was a master of understatement and smoke and mirrors in his assessment of the transition.
Soooooo,basically we (sportsman racer in general) got screwed for the benefit of the pros and the upper management of NHRA.That's how I interpret the situation.
Well put Ed. Jim
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Nice spin from the management side of nhra by Mr. Olson. In this interview he failed to mention the fact that the IRS had revoked nhra's not for profit exemption in early 70's. And that they had to scramble, stall and scramble some more to create a new "improved" nhra which included members with voting rights. In 1981 they produced yet another new and improved set of bylaws and asked the unwitting membership to give them the keys to the store. Apparently a majority of the members at the time were unaware of the predatory nature of the nhra executives. The good news is that most of this is well documented and subject to review. Yes, even after all these years.
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Nice spin from the management side of nhra by Mr. Olson. In this interview he failed to mention the fact that the IRS had revoked nhra's not for profit exemption in early 70's. And that they had to scramble, stall and scramble some more to create a new "improved" nhra which included members with voting rights. In 1981 they produced yet another new and improved set of bylaws and asked the unwitting membership to give them the keys to the store. Apparently a majority of the members at the time were unaware of the predatory nature of the nhra executives. The good news is that most of this is well documented and subject to review. Yes, even after all these years.
I've asked this before on this forum, but is NHRA, today, a profitable organization? I had heard they lost there non-profit status years ago, as well.
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Old 08-12-2010, 09:54 AM   #6
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Mike,
nhra is currently a 501(c)(6) tax exempt organization, however, it has several serious problems with prohibited activities for this exemption.

When we look at nhra we should be looking at the four men who currently "own" nhra. Dallas Gardner, Tom Compton, Peter Clifford and Graham Light. Along with being current/former paid employees of nhra they are the Board of Directors. Most of us should have no problems with nhra. It's the leadership of nhra that has created all the issues that we now face.
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nhra is currently a 501(c)(6) tax exempt organization, however, it has several serious problems with prohibited activities for this exemption.

When we look at nhra we should be looking at the four men who currently "own" nhra. Dallas Gardner, Tom Compton, Peter Clifford and Graham Light. Along with being current/former paid employees of nhra they are the Board of Directors. Most of us should have no problems with nhra. It's the leadership of nhra that has created all the issues that we now face.
Also well said. Jim
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I was a member at the time and I only vaguely recall a letter and ballot. I looked through my old stuff and found nothing. My guess is that I threw it in the circular file. If I find anything I'll post it.
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