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I really don't understand the alienation towards one of the "original" classes that has been here since the beginning. As it has been hashed out many times before, they should enlighten the beginners and then unleash them, such as jr dragster, to stock or super classes. It seems that everyone wants it all too fast and go from jr to TF, you burn out and not fade away.
I understand I will race by myself, no crew or help, therefore much above stock is out of the question for me. I will be content there. Just my .02 |
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There are a lot of younger racers who build cars with tubular K-members and power adders. They don't want the added weight and inconvience of working around the stock K-member and believe if power adders are the easy way to add horsepower why not do it. They also want to race heads up.
These are the racers NHRA is trying to bring into the fold. They are already racing with other sanctioning bodies and NHRA is just trying to tap into an existing market. The Stock and Superstock racers won't build the Unleashed type of cars and the Unleashed racers have little interest in all the restrictive rules and handicaped starts that go along with Stock/Superstock classes. So NHRA has created a separate racing series. I also don't think the Unleashed racers would put up with the treatment we get in relation to the pros so the unleashed series doesn't have them. With the diminishing number of pro cars it makes me wonder how things will end up
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NHRA Unleashed is the Pinks All Out of the NHRA. They are sending out emails to racers from the Pinks All Out entries. It's a lot cheaper than Stock/SuperStock at a National Event and according to emails the schedule is already expanding next year to a track near you. I've said this before, it didn't take NHRA long to realize that there was a lot of cars and a lot of spectators on the other side.
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I notice on Dragzine that the stands were empty, why not bring to NHRA 10.5 and some of the other classes, we could stand some new blood. I was hoping that Super Gas,Super Comp and super street was going to bring young new blood, I know people are going to bash me for this but get rid of throttle stops. CR
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Let's add to that the delay boxes as well. Get rid of these two things and drivers will have to go back to driving their cars. Robert Swartz
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Of course some of them use adjustable release trans buttons which all you are well informed about. |
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The rules are more like an old AHRA rule book. FTI X-TREME STREET TECH CARD $150.00 OCT 22,23,24th @ SGMP n/a SB 2500lbs n/a BB short deck conventional head 2900lbs n/a BB tall deck conventional head 3000lbs n/a BB short deck big chief 3000lbs n/a BB 10.2 tall deck big chief 3150lbs 28 X 10.5 nonW slick or 275 drag radial Nitrous Small Block: 2600 lbs Nitrous Big Block (10.2 deck okay,: 3200 lbs add 150 lbs for Big Chief Add 50 lbs on all nitrous combos w/non stock suspension, must have stock frame rail Big Chief combos max 3 kits supercharged (SB only)- 3100lbs base weight with F1C or Ysi add 100lbs for F1R/Xi or add 150lbs for Z trim or = add 200lbs for F2 add 50lbs for non inline head deduct 50 lbs for non intercooled add 50lbs for non stock suspension; must have stock frame rail notch okay gear drive okay 28 X 10.5 nonW slick or 275 drag radial single turbo (SB only)- 3100lbs base weight with 80 mm add 100lbs for bigger than 80 mm add 150lbs for 88 mm add 200lbs for 94 mm add 100lbs for non inline head deduct 50lbs for non intercooled add 50lbs for non stock suspension, must have stock frame rail - notch okay 28 X 10.5 nonW slick or 275 drag radial twin turbo's (SB only)- 3300lbs base weight max 67 mm add 50 lbs 70 mm add 150lbs 76 mm add 200 lbs 80 mm (must run on 275) add 100lbs for non stock suspension, must have stock frame rail notch okay 28 X 10.5 nonW slick or 275 drag radial Leaf springs - 100# No wheelie bars Mufflers required on non turbo charged entries Progressives okay 7531 okay Lexan okay Fiberglass okay Alcohol -Ok Auto Trans or Factory clutch type manual (clutch assisted okay) REDUCER $15,000 to the winner My guess is that there will be close to 100 racers running in this class alone. In the Feb race they took the first 32 qualified for the original. purse. The promotor then took the next 30-40 cars and put in $5000 for the "B-Main" so everyone that made the tow could race. There were almost 500 cars at the race I participated in Feb. The one in Oct should be even bigger. NHRA is trying to tap into this market but doesn't have a clue how to do it. They had to go in the back door by using ORSCA to run the races for them. The only carrot NHRA has to offer is the chance you will be on TV. NHRA is trying to package it like a Pinks race for TV. From racers I've talked with it is all about the show and not the racing. I guess one good thing the show has going for it is that Paul Page isn't doing the announcing. Today at Indy it looks like they have around 30 cars for the four true classes and around a hundred in the seven Billy Meyers type classes (index for you young types). |
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Lots of folks are leaning toward this type of racing because it is a 2 day weekend only event. In these economic times it is very hard to take 4 or 5 days off for a National event and the divisional races aren't much shorter.
We have converted an old Super Stocker to run in Hot Street and I built a LS1 powered Vega to run a 8.5" true street tire class. Both are heads up classes and a lot of fun. These races are more akin to the old days at Orange County International Raceway. You are going to see some of the most unique cars on the planet, with all the power adders, tubing, intercoolers, scoops, wings and stuff. These guys are serious racers that you won't see at an NHRA race. Tom Compton and his cronies see the number of Racers at these events and think they are missing our on what is rightfully theirs, drag racers. They have gotten to big for their britches over the last decade and forgotten about the "Grass Roots" racers. Add to the mix the restrictive rules structure and you have made a perfect venue for other Associations to spring up, PSCA, NMRA... There is no heads up racing with doorslammers in the NHRA and folks don't like that. I know you can say Class Eliminations are heads up but how many classes have multiple rounds for a win? One or two rounds a couple times a year? Stock and Super Stock cars are the best thing on the planet but not everyone is willing to build one due to the cost, rules and limited venues to run them. For the same money you can build a 7 second heads up car, and no Graham Light at the races!
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One Question?
The index classes 11.0, 12.0, and 13.0. Are they shoepolish classes or is it heads up?
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