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Old 03-06-2010, 05:30 PM   #1
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As for the trigger it was only one and it takes 2, I let off on my bye run and 2nd round eliminator and only went 57 under. I have it fixed for now, but we will see after Zmax

What about Joey's run at Phoenix?


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Old 03-06-2010, 06:02 PM   #2
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I was driving when the engine let go....

At least we broke it on the track and not on the dyno...

But if anyone needs instructions, I can probably show you how to take a race car and turn it into a paperweight in 3 feet of track.

It was more than a little disappointing, but as many said to me today, and has been said here too.... it is just an engine, and next time it will be better.

But meeting a lot of the guys from classracer and the other racers her was a great experience... I am now more determined than every to get this car back on the track again....

And as far as the comment about toyota tuners doing our car, well I can only say that our problems have not been due to anything fuel/spark related, and these guys are too good at what they do to even look elsewhere...They have had a hand in cars that win everywhere they go, including road race, land speed records and more... Jerry and his crew have been super. And eventually we will get this car sorted out and everyone will see what a megasquirt coupled to a new hemi can really do.

Tomorrow is another day, and as long as we have tomorrows, we will keep at it.

Thanks for all of the encouragement!

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Old 03-06-2010, 06:29 PM   #3
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David and Chris, get a bigger hammer and go back to work. Effort=Results
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Old 03-06-2010, 07:16 PM   #4
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Proven parts > Secret Squirrel.
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Old 03-06-2010, 07:22 PM   #5
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Proven parts > Secret Squirrel.
Nah....

Not a whole lot of room for secret squirrel stuff here, valve spring are one thing we HAVENT had a problem with....lol

Kinda hard to pic the "wrong part" when only 1 set of pistons, 1 set of rods, etc, etc are legal...
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Nah....

Not a whole lot of room for secret squirrel stuff here, valve spring are one thing we HAVENT had a problem with....lol

Kinda hard to pic the "wrong part" when only 1 set of pistons, 1 set of rods, etc, etc are legal...
Then what's the problem? What is the issue with the EMI interference? What's it causing?

Honestly, the datalogs should tell you exactly what's happening, if they don't, something is seriously wrong.

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Then what's the problem? What is the issue with the EMI interference? What's it causing?

Honestly, the datalogs should tell you exactly what's happening, if they don't, something is seriously wrong.
Where's that BS you just deleted? How can you compare your 4 cyl. w/a brand new 6.1, boosted, eh??? WJ
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Old 03-06-2010, 09:00 PM   #8
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Then what's the problem? What is the issue with the EMI interference? What's it causing?

Honestly, the datalogs should tell you exactly what's happening, if they don't, something is seriously wrong.
Thats one of the problems, the AMOUNT of interference....its zipping logs on BOTH the Ecu and the Wideband logger totally seperate units, its THAT much.

It happens over about 7 grand, below that its ok, but well, lots of EM, it looks like thats solved however.

8 20 amp igniters zapping over 7k and 16 plugs well....a lot of EMI,probably more than its obvious you can imagine. Im pretty familiar with EM and how to shield it, from radio electronics and all my XY expereince when my dad owned his vending company (atari XY games were notorious for that) and it looks like my "super nuclear Drooze 100MEV Faraday Cage" solved it, but hey no hating, it works.

The OPTIONS arent plentiful, not for a hot spark, not on this engine because of the coil rules in regard to numbers, so if you know a way to fire 16 plugs with 8 coils let me know, and a coil that over 65k volts on both sides. May be an import unit but we cant find one.

So the option is use a hotter igniter and spark booster, but with the igniters they were enough so we removed the spark booster, and we were still good.

Now for a new and improved non-trackside built one.....(em shield) Time to dig out all my old HAM radio gear.....(I KNEW it would have a use again !) I had to make this one out of roof flashing, alluminum window screen, anti static mylar coated bubble wrap (sun shielding) and a few other handy items I grabbed at Home Depot.

Its enough EM its zapping the flash ram....seriously.....And Not just on our ECU, but other systems, including a laptop if its in the car......when the FCC comes knocking Ill know why....its like running a magnetron in the open.

I can also throw an arc HOT across a .060 gap at over 8k....so no spark issues But the lack of spark issues are causing other issues,

I got logs outta the last "Catastrophe" however.......so now I can print em out and hand em to the old man any time he gets "punchy"

Were aware of the issues and working to resolve them....that didnt cause a rod to aerate the pan, other things, mechanical did.....simple, 2 seperate issues.

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Nah....

Not a whole lot of room for secret squirrel stuff here, valve spring are one thing we HAVENT had a problem with....lol

Kinda hard to pic the "wrong part" when only 1 set of pistons, 1 set of rods, etc, etc are legal...
Chris, You get 2 different choices of rods. H beam or I beam Scat rods from MP. Personally, I don't like either choice. Talked with Randy Longstreet from Manley and they submitted a Pro Series rod. I also plan on sending one of our 5.7 pistons to Ross. Hold tight and don't rush your next build. I'd wait for the quality parts that'll show up very soon.
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Fact of the matter is the word's out that Drooze is not the only DP racer experiencing coming apart issues w/these 6.1 motors.... WJ
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