New hazmat rules

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Originally Posted by Greg Reimer 7376

I don't think you're liberal.You don't sound like it. Respect for the land you live on is part of the appreciation for America our founding fathers founded this country on.I'm talking about the bunch that seems dead set against everything we work for and seems determined to ruin everything for everybody else.There's no similarity there with what you wrote.Incidentally, is there any more greed than the liberal elite seizing control and the lives and assets of everybody else in the name of socialism?

I wasnt sure....it was the way that it was added to the end of a comment about my septic and well, I thought might have been an "inferrence" but wasnt sure......
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Im what I like to call an "Truman Democrat" but faaaarrrrrr....from liberal.

Think saying Im a "Truman Democrat" says enough....

[Greg Reimer 7376]

Originally Posted by drooze

I wasnt sure....it was the way that it was added to the end of a comment about my septic and well, I thought might have been an "inferrence" but wasnt sure......
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Im what I like to call an "Truman Democrat" but faaaarrrrrr....from liberal.

Think saying Im a "Truman Democrat" says enough....

That's an interesting concept as how you defined yourself. Truman knew how to express himself. That's an understatement.He came from the era when the democrats stood for something that was to be proud of, that is, the working man. The current bunch have changed so much, that even Truman wouldn't recognize them. When you hear the kooky loony way out stuff being spouted from the al gores of the land, and the politically correct stuff that's out there, that's where the appearance of the septic tank being too close to their well came from. Makes you wonder what a lot of people have been drinking!!

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Not to take this "Off Topic" as I believe the 2 are related.

Hazmat fees = Taxes. Simple.
Obama needs $ and the economy isnt producing
Consumption Taxes are the only new form of revenue available.
Hazmat fees will be disquised for transport of these items because the general public hears "Oh Hazardous Material....oh who cares they should pay" not understanding the ramifications of WHAT they are allowing to occur.

Then one day Jill will be taking her husbands lawn mower oil down to the local "Oil Disposal" site or day and a cop will pull her over and cite her....might take a while, it will happen.....

Until then, someone else said it here....they will (cities, states, and municipalities) use it as a "squeeze" tax to squeeze every last drop.

They now have food taxes ?, I told my dad last week the day a tax collector shows up at my door to tax food I grow is the day I go to prison for being a murderer.

The funny thing is I and my family are/were pro Union. My family started our local for Plumbers and Pipefitters 219, Im a Snowball. My other side, my fathers side was instumental in starting the union in the 30's at the "Meat Shop" where 1 death a week was normal....B&W Boiler works here in Barberton.

BUT both my grandparents, both BLUE Democrats, were chagrined and disappointed knowing that the "Liberal" vote and phenomena rode in on their Union votes, and other many less savory unions that are/were nothing more than orgainzed crime calling themselves a union, not TRUE trade unions........it was disappointing to them.

Reason seems to be in the way at times when politics are concerned, the politicians are getting so VERY disconnected from the people they claim to represent there will be a rude awakening for them at some point. I only HOPE I am still around to see it and the look on their faces.

But like I said, you can ALWAYS preempt the Tree Huggers in your favor. Make it apparent to them they cannot dicate to you what you do in private and that its to their benefit to have them handle it for you Make, and give them an "Out" to act , or "Appear" to act as a savior.

That being said a person still needs to be responsible when it comes to potentially hazordous materials.....Used Gasonline Motor Oil....is NOT a Hazmat in my opinion.....Something that needs disposed of properly yes.

Kinda like my call to the FD asking about toxic pickup and when they said once a year I said, "Oh thats ok Ill just go dump it in the leech bed." Man I got like 5 minute door to door service (and NO I wasnt serious, but it became apparent they thought I was....)

The ONLY SINGLE WAY things like this WILL stop is if we PUSH back....

Given no resistance why Not try for them to grab / do all they care to ?

If there is no push back how do they know theyve hit a limit ?

Originally Posted by Greg Reimer 7376

That's an interesting concept as how you defined yourself. Truman knew how to express himself. That's an understatement.He came from the era when the democrats stood for something that was to be proud of, that is, the working man. The current bunch have changed so much, that even Truman wouldn't recognize them. When you hear the kooky loony way out stuff being spouted from the al gores of the land, and the politically correct stuff that's out there, that's where the appearance of the septic tank being too close to their well came from. Makes you wonder what a lot of people have been drinking!!

[B Aceves]

Originally Posted by magnumv8

Since you need special permits to transport a "hazardous waste" this issue is a lot bigger than it first appears...the inconvenience of taking your waste products with you when you leave you now have the "illegal" substance in your trailer when you get pulled over for a weight check or traffic stop...when all these municipalities looking for ways to increase their revenues you start to look like fresh meat to these people....the writing is on the wall for an "environmental fee" to be added to the entrance fees as well as the insurance fee...this unfortunately is the only proper way to deal with this.....automotive service centers have been adding this fee for years.....


D L Rambo.....

In CA it is not illegal to transport waist oil unless you are caring a amount over the legal limit. I belive its up to around 40 gallons before you need to have the proper permit and also a Haz Mat endorsement on your license. So if we carry around a five gallon bucket of used oil sealed in a bucket its not a problem. Remember It becomes Hazardous Waist only after its been used.

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Originally Posted by B Aceves

In CA it is not illegal to transport waist oil unless you are caring a amount over the legal limit. I belive its up to around 40 gallons before you need to have the proper permit and also a Haz Mat endorsement on your license. So if we carry around a five gallon bucket of used oil sealed in a bucket its not a problem. Remember It becomes Hazardous Waist only after its been used.

Funny Motor Oil by Itelf isnt considered "HazMat"
Gasoline by itself isnt considered "HazMat"
Together they are.......

I think by calling it Fuel Oil you could get away without it being a Hazmat

[Keith 944]

Originally Posted by drooze

Funny Motor Oil by Itelf isnt considered "HazMat"
Gasoline by itself isnt considered "HazMat"
Together they are.......

I think by calling it Fuel Oil you could get away without it being a Hazmat

oh yea, see if you can drive a fuel truck, propane, fuel oil ect. without a hazmat endorsment!

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

I was talking in like 5 gallon quantities....

Originally Posted by Keith 944

oh yea, see if you can drive a fuel truck, propane, fuel oil ect. without a hazmat endorsment!

[Keith 944]

what was the old saying? if it sounds like a duck? anyway, this whole deal sucks, obviously we are not wanted!