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Old 01-30-2010, 03:03 PM   #1
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More info @
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Old 01-31-2010, 08:17 AM   #2
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Thanks WJ

Byron, cool website - thanks. Sure could have used that when I was doing this car first time... course, in late 80's I did not have a computer, let alone access to the web! I have saved the site... one more place for me to spend time!

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Old 01-31-2010, 08:35 AM   #3
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I have the hood emblems and the hood.I can take some pics if you`re interested in them.
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Old 01-31-2010, 09:19 AM   #4
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I have a question , maybe someone can get me in the ballpark.

I have a '69 firebird with one of these 6 cyl OHC engines, the small carb version. The engine is complete and there is an automatic trans in the car, all is hooked up and was alledgedly running and the engine had been rebuilt. Any ideas on what the engine and trans is worth?
Since i don't know for a fact it was rebuilt even though it is very clean and looks fresh, I would only attach a value to it as being complete and rebuildable.

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Old 01-31-2010, 10:21 AM   #5
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Well since the what its worth is what someone is willing to pay thing, I picked up one about 2 years ago at the scrapyard.

I was going to do ? with it, but for $50 I couldnt pass it up.

Got it home it was locked , threw it and the trans on ebay as is, saying that it was locked I got $500 for the engine and trans, but it was complete to the air cleaner. That one was the small carb version not the 4bbl like the Lemans has. The guy oddly bought it to rebuild it and put it in a 40 ? Pontiac coupe...wanted something different.

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I have a question , maybe someone can get me in the ballpark.

I have a '69 firebird with one of these 6 cyl OHC engines, the small carb version. The engine is complete and there is an automatic trans in the car, all is hooked up and was alledgedly running and the engine had been rebuilt. Any ideas on what the engine and trans is worth?
Since i don't know for a fact it was rebuilt even though it is very clean and looks fresh, I would only attach a value to it as being complete and rebuildable.

Thanks in advance!
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Old 01-31-2010, 03:47 PM   #6
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I am not going to hijack this post (AGAIN), but there is one more question that Mark, or someone more knowledgeable than myself might answer for me. I've been curious about this for several years, and this would seem to be an ample opportunity to get this "yes or no" question answered.

With your permission, here goes...

NHRA, in a ruling on a late model Corvette a few years back, allowed (for Stock Eliminator) the complete removal of the transaxle, which was, naturally, OEM in the rear of the car, and allowed the installation of a conventional automatic transmission (conventional, as in Camaro-style) bolted to the block with a normal Chevy bell housing, and the installation of a "live axle" (probably 12-bolt) rear axle assembly, complete.
This rolling, driveline-freak, was campaigned as a legal Stock Eliminator car for awhile.

The owner may have been Stan White, a Div. IV racer. Not sure about that...

My question is this:

Since NHRA allowed this sort of "Franken-tranny" funny business for that Corvette, do you think that permission for a similar transformation could be successfully obtained from NHRA, using a transaxle-equipped 1963 Tempest 326 V8, for Stock Eliminator?

Those cars seemingly have potential with the 4bbl motor for Stock, but the swing axles and Corvair-based transaxle make it a drivetrain nightmare; ostensibly, an accident looking for a place to happen.

I'd think that NHRA would approve it if only on a safety-related basis. Swing axles are not something you want to break... and these would be highly suspect, given the tires and track-prep we have today.

The aforementioned Corvette seemingly set the precedent; do you think that NHRA would go for the same switchero in a Temoest, and, if not, why not???

Or, do I already know the answer to that last question/?? LOL!

Now, back to your normally-scheduled programming....
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Old 01-31-2010, 08:55 PM   #7
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Im curious as to what you mean by "transaxle" If you mean independent rear suspension it can be changed to a solid axle.

The corvettes I am familiar with (C3 and before) had only an IRS...not a transaxle.

Corvairs do, but thats a different animal......

My understanding is as long as the stock shock and spring locations are used its legal.......IF that can be done with a Transverse leaf on the early vettes or ? on the newer I dont know......

But independent rear suspension isnt a transaxle in my book.....

Could you legally replace it on a Tempest ? I dono....can you use the stock shock and spring location ?

Here is the rule.....

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Swing axle differential may be replaced with conventional housing;
stock trailing arms must be retained, may be beefed up and
adapted to housing, must retain transverse spring. Must install
Panhard bar. Frame may be notched for driveshaft clearance.
Distance between OEM backing plates and OEM wheelbase must
be maintained.
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I am not going to hijack this post (AGAIN), but there is one more question that Mark, or someone more knowledgeable than myself might answer for me. I've been curious about this for several years, and this would seem to be an ample opportunity to get this "yes or no" question answered.

With your permission, here goes...

NHRA, in a ruling on a late model Corvette a few years back, allowed (for Stock Eliminator) the complete removal of the transaxle, which was, naturally, OEM in the rear of the car, and allowed the installation of a conventional automatic transmission (conventional, as in Camaro-style) bolted to the block with a normal Chevy bell housing, and the installation of a "live axle" (probably 12-bolt) rear axle assembly, complete.
This rolling, driveline-freak, was campaigned as a legal Stock Eliminator car for awhile.

The owner may have been Stan White, a Div. IV racer. Not sure about that...

My question is this:

Since NHRA allowed this sort of "Franken-tranny" funny business for that Corvette, do you think that permission for a similar transformation could be successfully obtained from NHRA, using a transaxle-equipped 1963 Tempest 326 V8, for Stock Eliminator?

Those cars seemingly have potential with the 4bbl motor for Stock, but the swing axles and Corvair-based transaxle make it a drivetrain nightmare; ostensibly, an accident looking for a place to happen.

I'd think that NHRA would approve it if only on a safety-related basis. Swing axles are not something you want to break... and these would be highly suspect, given the tires and track-prep we have today.

The aforementioned Corvette seemingly set the precedent; do you think that NHRA would go for the same switchero in a Temoest, and, if not, why not???

Or, do I already know the answer to that last question/?? LOL!

Now, back to your normally-scheduled programming....
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Old 01-31-2010, 08:33 PM   #8
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Adam,

I might be interested in the emblems. I am putting a 400 hood on for stock class, but would always be nice to have some if I ever change it back to origional...
Please send me some pic's and let me know how much you want for them.

email is kegracing@yahoo.com

thanks

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