Stocker Bracket for Charity ?

[GTX JOHN]

Thanks for the good advice Sid! I'm going to try real hard to take it. John Irving

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Find another Charity, I dont care, something you all feel is more "Worthy"

Salvation Army....Greenpeace, ASPCA....I dont care... look online for breakout and administrative overheads used for "Office" and Upper echelon execs and find one where we can direct the donations to any portion of the fund the winner sees fit and the charity skims the least off the top, they all do.

Simple......

But in this response I still havent seen an answer as to Format ?

Youve got to come up with something we can put out for all to say before you "take" it.... I thought the point was charity , I guess thats why I preffer to have a stake holder or a cashiers check made out in advance ? Hmmm....

Still waiting on a format to negotiate..........waiting.........I think waiting..........

Time to put up or shutup as you (I think and could be wrong) said to me ? Maybe it was someone else.

Am I to "Assume" from your respone to Sid, this is something YOU presented and are going to back out of ?No I dont think that the case but in abscence of an answer as to format what am I and others to think ? Im here in cash in hand....let stop talking and do it , NOW so we can get others on board, itll be fun and for a good cause.....

Originally Posted by GTX JOHN

Thanks for the good advice Sid! I'm going to try real hard to take it. John Irving

[Sid Munson1091]

Originally Posted by drooze

Find another Charity, I dont care, something you all feel is more "Worthy"

How about YOU being the charity Drooze?? All the $$$ we collect will go for you getting some good proffesional help at your local "shrink" Doctors office as soon as possible !!!!

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Originally Posted by Sid Munson1091

How you being the charity Drooze?? All the $$$ we collect will go for you getting some good proffesional help at your local "shrink" Doctors office as soon as possible !!!!

Nah thats alright, Id rather give "WORTHY" cause, something it will have an effect on......and since I dont need the money it dosent make much sense ? Im me, always will be...nothing to change.

[Harry 6674]

A college education? Do you know what the percentage of graduates who work in their degree fields is? The last I heard it was 6%. Of course they could learn to fill out their unemployment paperwork in school, sort of a head start.

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Hmmm...an education for one person, who only has a 6% chance of practicing in that field ? Dosent sound like good odds to me, besides who would choose what single party is a worth recipient ?

Still waiting on John Irvings answer.........still waiting...........still waiting......

Originally Posted by Harry 6674

A college education? Do you know what the percentage of graduates who work in their degree fields is? The last I heard it was 6%. Of course they could learn to fill out their unemployment paperwork in school, sort of a head start.

[Hagen Gary]

Originally Posted by Harry 6674

A college education? Do you know what the percentage of graduates who work in their degree fields is? The last I heard it was 6%. Of course they could learn to fill out their unemployment paperwork in school, sort of a head start.

An education is still an education no matter what field you work in. Did you know that studies show that 86% of Americans don't know what came first. The Civil War or The Revolutionary War. That is sickoning to me. Even if you don't know time lines, as long as you know what the basis of what each one of them were about, then you could place which came first. YUK. Like I said before, I'm sure someone could recomend a kid who is deserving and will put that money to use educating him/herself. Or you could send your money to a nonprofit organization where the ceo makes a billion a year and 15% of your money goes to the cause. We all know this race won't ever happen, so whats the point of this thread anyway?

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Well, the ONLY thing I personally know, is I am willing to put up the money TODAY.....

The ONLY single reason that this race wont happen is if John Irving backs out of a gauntlet HE has thrown down....PERIOD. Make no mistake he was the one that came up with the Idea , I simply added participation for others and set terms of a check made out in advance so there was no "funny business", I have heard NOTHING back on Format of the wager, NOTHING.

IF, and I am not saying he is backing down, its entirley possible he is busy with day to day items that need his attention, so Im not going to assume I know why he hasnt replied, and contrary to my personal feelings I will as I do with everyone give him the benefit of the doubt.

IF though IF he does fail to follow through the gauntlet he has thrown, its on HIS Head, his alone. Not on mine, and I am willing and ready to continue it without him.

Cash talks bull**** walks....I am willing to 100% BACKUP What I say 100% Right NOW ! If he isnt well then I am sure he will come up with some self justification excuse that I wasnt serious, or this that or the other. Not my problem, I am putting this out for anyone to participate in that would like, seems like a good thing to do.

The more I think about it, the more I think that OTHERS who wish to participate should NOT be held to the $1000 that John suggested and I agreed to IF he would make the Terms clear.

Instead, why not this ? John Irving and I put up $1000 Each, ANYONE else who would like to run puts up a Minimum contribution of $100 , They can put up MORE if they choose, BUT it will be kept under wraps for privacy.

Only the "Stake Holder" will know who put up how much money. And he will then return as I said in the prior post the amount to the winner that they put in, or they can choose to simply donate it as well.

$1000 seems way too steep for some others, But I think others would be game for a lesser amount, they shouldnt be chased away from a $ perspective even though their intents are pure.

Childrens Cancer at a Non-Profit Hospital ? Where all the money goes direct ? No overhead ? I know of a couple orgizations in that arena.
Or better yet, a list where the Winner can choose from, I think thats reasonable. Well put some education on the list, some health, some humaintarian charities.

Seem reasonsable to me....

Originally Posted by Hagen Gary

An education is still an education no matter what field you work in. Did you know that studies show that 86% of Americans don't know what came first. The Civil War or The Revolutionary War. That is sickoning to me. Even if you don't know time lines, as long as you know what the basis of what each one of them were about, then you could place which came first. YUK. Like I said before, I'm sure someone could recomend a kid who is deserving and will put that money to use educating him/herself. Or you could send your money to a nonprofit organization where the ceo makes a billion a year and 15% of your money goes to the cause. We all know this race won't ever happen, so whats the point of this thread anyway?

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Hagen Gary

An education is still an education no matter what field you work in. Did you know that studies show that 86% of Americans don't know what came first. The Civil War or The Revolutionary War. That is sickoning to me. Even if you don't know time lines, as long as you know what the basis of what each one of them were about, then you could place which came first. YUK. Like I said before, I'm sure someone could recomend a kid who is deserving and will put that money to use educating him/herself. Or you could send your money to a nonprofit organization where the ceo makes a billion a year and 15% of your money goes to the cause. We all know this race won't ever happen, so whats the point of this thread anyway?

What's the difference,the way they teach revisionist history in all public schools.Colleges are even worse.Ask kids today what Dec 7th means.Guaranteed you'll get a blank stare 8 or 9 time out of 10.
Have you heard what they teach NOW about Columbus's trip to America?
A basic education and some parental or otherwise adult guidance and common sense will get you a lot farther in life than a so called sheep skin in many cases.
I'm not the brightest bulb in the box,H.S. education.Got a job with Con Edison (at 27 yrs old).
I retired at 55 with a pension.Got So Sec at 62 and in April Medicare.I'm not rich but I'm doing OK.In the US thank God we have the OPPERTUNITY to go as far as we care to work for.

[GTX JOHN]

The boys and I will be at Pomona with cash in Hand! You know d*mn well we have only Dodge Aspen Wagon in stock. Were done talking but we WILL be at Pomona and Ready to race!!! Irving Family Racing proud to be sponsored by Glendora Dodge since 1994, the worlds greatest Direct Connection Dealership!