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Old 01-02-2010, 08:36 PM   #1
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Jeff, it looks like a Meduim Riser from the pic. Those are correct carbs for a Medium Riser. I have never seen a single-engine 427 that was reverse rotation. That was done to turn the props opposite directions in twin-engine boats. If the wet manifolds have HM on them, it is most likely a side-oiler. The "cast but not drilled" blocks were in bigger boats and were lower horsepower applications. The Holman Moody stuff were usually sideoilers by the late 60's. They also put the MR top end on 428's for some V-drive applications. My dad's G hull Rayson Craft came from Gardena with a 428 that had that top end on it. If it is a 428 there will be no crossbolts or side galley. I would be interested in the marine equipment if the buyer isn't using this for a boat. I still play with some of that stuff. My email is captcj@hughes.net.

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Old 09-21-2010, 08:21 PM   #2
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This is a complete 1967 Ford 427 / 425 HP side oiler. It's in a boat built in the mid 1960's. It's like a big fishing boat, not a drag or ski boat. The boat is falling apart due to rot. This is in a 1 acre storage yard I have listed for sale in Phoenix. I just got done taking down casting numbers and it's all 1967. It's supposed to be a Hollman - Moody built with a bigger marine cam. Who knows if that's true. The 83 year old owner knows what it is....
I believe I have it sold pending further tear down inspection.

Intake is C7AE-9425-A....can't find a "-A" online...what is that?
Heads are C6AE-F
Carbs are C5AF-9510-80...rear is List 3300 dated 751....front carb list is 3301 dated 752. Autolite tags are intact and mint on both carbs.
Ford DP distributor.
Cross-bolted block with screw-in freeze plugs.

What's the core value on this?
I had a simuliar experience in the late 80's. A chevy performance guy came to me one day and said he had an old 429 engine that a buddy had pulled out of an old pulpwood truck because it was breaking parts.
I went over to look at it and to my surprise it was medium riser 427. Crossbolted mains. Steel Crank, Cap Screw Rods, Screw in Freeze Plugs. Standard Bore. Never drilled for a hydraulic lifter cam.
I just about freaked. I told him what it had and he was totally dis-interested. It was a Ford. He said he wanted 250 bucks for it.
I gave it to him.
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Old 09-22-2010, 12:57 AM   #3
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Took the engine apart at the shop before money was exchanged. It was in really good condition (and it is all standard rotation). Crank, rods, block, heads, intake, carbs, distributor all in good condition. One of the intake valves broke the head off when compressing the valve spring. Dang if it wasn't a rifle-drilled stem! Unbelievably light for it's size. According to my machinist Hollman Moody did this to their HP crate engines back then. Hmmm...
Basically it will be a normal rebuild with new pistons & valves although the owner has spoke of selling the crank and cap-screw rods and putting a stroker crank and rods in it. Those items can't be cheap.
It will go into a clone '67 R code Fairlane with a 4-speed (of course!). He'll drive it when not driving his '69 Road Runner with a Hemi and 4-speed or his '64 Aluminum Max Wedge (real deal and yes he drives it around). Man, some people have all the fun!
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Took the engine apart at the shop before money was exchanged. It was in really good condition (and it is all standard rotation). Crank, rods, block, heads, intake, carbs, distributor all in good condition. One of the intake valves broke the head off when compressing the valve spring. Dang if it wasn't a rifle-drilled stem! Unbelievably light for it's size. According to my machinist Hollman Moody did this to their HP crate engines back then. Hmmm...
Basically it will be a normal rebuild with new pistons & valves although the owner has spoke of selling the crank and cap-screw rods and putting a stroker crank and rods in it. Those items can't be cheap.
It will go into a clone '67 R code Fairlane with a 4-speed (of course!). He'll drive it when not driving his '69 Road Runner with a Hemi and 4-speed or his '64 Aluminum Max Wedge (real deal and yes he drives it around). Man, some people have all the fun!

sodium filled valves maybe?
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Sodium was only used on exhaust valves
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