Racing seats in stock?

[Harry 6674]

Just move the car to a lower class until you feel safe. We've had enough enhancements.

[Jack McCarthy]

just for everyone's info a 1966 283 chevy wagon without a roll bar would be perfectly fine and legal with a 1966 installed lap belt.

danny byrd's chevy II was bounced at indy two years ago because he did not have a folding seat (2 door style) but had a lighter solid seat (4 door wagon style)...

just another attempt to move weight from front to back by the fast guys...

and by the way i race stock eliminator, pay my dues, why should i not be allowed an opinion on this or any other rules issues... damn fast guys want all rules amended to thier liking and screw us we dont even get an opinion anymore... billy nees is right 90% of rule changes have not helped us...only the fast guys.

jack mccarthy

[Jim Cassels]

Originally Posted by Jack McCarthy

just for everyone's info a 1966 283 chevy wagon without a roll bar would be perfectly fine and legal with a 1966 installed lap belt.

danny byrd's chevy II was bounced at indy two years ago because he did not have a folding seat (2 door style) but had a lighter solid seat (4 door wagon style)...

just another attempt to move weight from front to back by the fast guys...

and by the way i race stock eliminator, pay my dues, why should i not be allowed an opinion on this or any other rules issues... damn fast guys want all rules amended to thier liking and screw us we dont even get an opinion anymore... billy nees is right 90% of rule changes have not helped us...only the fast guys.

jack mccarthy

Jack & Billy,
I don't have a problem with the seat rule as they are. I was just giving Micky a hard time. We have a faster car but we add wt. to the front of car to controll wheel stands. I am one of you guy's I have another car that you will have to spot if I ever get it to run the index

[SuperStockDodge]

I definitely do not care for aftermarket racing seats in Super Stock, in Stock Eliminator it would be even more of a joke. They do not belong-PERIOD!

[Mickey Whaley]

not saying slow cars could not reply i was told only cars that go 10.90 or faster this would be an option for I guess because of super street index?

[Mickey Whaley]

Racing seats allowed for 2010 found the link it's at WWW.behinddznutzLmoa.com should be real useful.

[THE LEGEND]

MW,
I agree with ya on all safety issues including seats. I think the slow guys should pay attention also. Especially with all the brake jobs at the stripe..
Chip

[bsa633]

Racing seats..hmm..okay...25 pounds ballast under the seat,if found removed..out for a year...lets see how many still will think about the safety issue in the real world!

Has there been any recent problems concerning safety?? I dont think it's forbidden to beef up and/or make improvements to original seats and attachment for your own safety..
and about sfi pants...When was it last a "stocker guy" got severe burns going down the track?

[novassdude]

Originally Posted by Mickey Whaley

not saying slow cars could not reply i was told only cars that go 10.90 or faster this would be an option for I guess because of super street index?

So you are saying only the fast cars can have the seats?

[Evan Smith]

Chad,

Are you certain that OE seats are deisgned to fail? What engineering data do you have on this subject. I'm not trying to argue, I'm quite curious about your theory on this. I've never heard of this and I am around a lot of OE stuff.

I've heard of crumple zones, but never a seat designed to fail. Keeping the driver and passengers properly in place is very important in crash survival. Let the metal around the driver's compartment crumple and let the air bags protect the occupants. How can the seat belts do their job if the seat holding the driver fails?

Personally, I'd like to stick with my stock seat, although race would be safer. In circle track and road course racing, much technology has gone into building crash-worthy race seats.

But I will say that I've seen a lot of racers wearing their 5-way harness incorrectly. Your pelvis is a strong part of your body so the lap belt should be tightened first and it should be low on your hips (assuming you have it installed correctly) and as tight as you can stand (within reason). When the shoulder harness is pulled tight, the lap belt and latch should not ride up into your sternum, where your body has very little strength. Also, the mount for the shoulder harness should be fixed or set in line with the angle of the harness, not stright up, so when it is stressed in a crash, it has little chance of flexing, bending or breaking. This is stuff that is rarely, if ever, checked in tech.

Evan