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Old 12-08-2009, 01:49 PM   #1
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sprnova, how many heads-up races did you have this year? Think I had six?
no heads up runs
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no heads up runs
After you have a few of those, you won't think it's just bracket racing.
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Old 12-08-2009, 02:35 PM   #3
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After you have a few of those, you won't think it's just bracket racing.
You sir dont need to worry about me. (heads up or bracket style) I can take care of myself.


Not to hyjack the thread I believe they all have a place, as long as your with in the rules.
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Old 12-08-2009, 02:41 PM   #4
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Mr Stock you have good points. But you say the top 4 have an advantage by potentially having a bye, come 1 or 2 round when they get beat by a lower qualified car (beat by bracket racing) now they have the advantage? And what camaro and Mustang are you refering to?
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Old 12-09-2009, 09:08 AM   #5
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John Stock, you hit the nail on the head For me anyway, Pump, Weigh, you're good. I really love racing, however after leaning over fenders all week pulling a head or a rod and piston on my race car isn't at the top of my list. I admire all those who chose to do it and anyone who knows me is aware I'm not afraid to work. For me racing is like a mini vacation, I'll work on my junk if I have to, but I prefer to do my work in the shop. Hey if I could afford to run Comp I'd probably do so but it's just too far out there for me. I think if you look at the fastest scoop cars you'll see for the most part these are the guys who have the funds and other resourses to have a fast ride in any configuration. Joe
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Old 12-08-2009, 02:28 PM   #6
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Josh,

I’m not of the opinion that hood scoop cars (Modifieds). should be removed from Super Stock. If I had half a brain, I’d run one of the “Weigh Me, Pump Me, Send Me to Dinner” classes.

It wasn’t the topic of Don’s post but, I do believe that a case can be made that the Indexes for Modified classes are not equitable. Currently a disproportionate number of Modifieds qualify at the top of the ladder. As you so eloquently (and accurately outside of a heads up) describe the Eliminator as a bracket race, it isn’t hard to see why positions 1-4 on the qualifying sheet are of high value. Cars 1-4 will always get the available byes if they are still in competition. Any free pass in a round of a single elimination contest doubles the statistical odds of winning the event.

The reason that Modifieds qualify at the top is a function of the AHFS. At national events Modifieds can trigger the AHFS and they are balanced out by every car in their class. Traditional Super Stock cars that trigger are only balanced against their same engine combination. In reality, this means many Super Stock cars get horsepower adjustments after hitting -1.15 while Modifieds in practice only get an adjustment when they run -1.40 at sea level. In reality it would currently take a -.25 or -.30 change to the Modified indexs to bring equity to the qualifying and ladder situation, IMHO.

That said, that black V-6 Camaro is a bad dude.
As is that Silver Mustang with a couple of missing cylinders.
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