my opinion

[Mike Carr]

Dan, that was part of my point earlier. Not that you suck (although Hayek probably still hates you...LOL). For all of the "supposed" advantages, the touring/Pro racers didn't even win half of any of the races run this season (Nat'l or Div). Some big advantage, huh? For all the fuss Don makes, you'd expect that those numbers should have been something like 75-80% of the races won.

Besides, Dan, you had an excuse--too busy winning in Comp.

[Don Kennedy]

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[novassdude]

As far as racers hanging back I have seen alot of non touring pros that like to do that. As others have mentioned after third call and before the first pair goes down the lanes should be closed to all.
In my opinion switching to a pro tree will not hurt the touring pros in the least. No matter what you do to the tree the pros will have more hits and adjust to it faster.
Don there will never be a fair playing field as you seem to be looking for. There is no way to have a system where ever one has the same chance to win. Some people are just better racers.

John Kristianson

[Adger Smith]

LOL @
Dan
See Don,
Good old Dan shows up with a short post and tries to confuse you.
He wins again!
Oh, Don are you really upset now that a Pro Sportsman has joined the discussion. Oh, how dare him join in with us non winning racers and be humble about it. Lets change the rules of the forum.... silly, isn't it.
The system/rules allow a person participate at what ever level they choose. Don,I think you(we)have the same opportunity as Dan, who makes the commitment of his life to be a student of the sport and earn a living and to excel by becoming a Champion. Granted his skill sets may be better and honed more than ours. Rules give us the opportunity to participate, not to equalize the skill sets we have.

[Don Kennedy]

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[Don Kennedy]

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[Don Kennedy]

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[442OLDS]

Originally Posted by Don Kennedy

if no one has any comments about my ideas of the points chase i will when I get back from church delete all the posts i have made . Why you ask cause I can

My solution to the The problem of the average sportsman not having a chance to win the championship is to change the way points are calculated to create a level playing field for all sportsman to have a chance to win the world championship . According to Mike carr 48% of touring pros won national events and 33% won divisional event swhich is a huge glaring figure even proving my point of the present points system iis not a good

one option is to only allow a sportsman to use so many races with in his division only count as points for the world championship . This would cut down some traveling even for the touring Pro sportsman .

another option is to then take the top 5 racers in each division and have a national even run off to decide the champion . NHRA could pay these racers to show up at an event to have the race>

another option is have a Lucas would champion only from the division races and then have a champion only for the national events races .

What I am trying to show is that there are really good racers who will never win the championship because they are not a Touring pro sportsman .

Some of the above options would also open up some More Sponsors to get involved with say the Divisional Lucas World champion and then The National Full Throttle World Champion

You need to start another thread about points.I agree with you that something should be changed.You are allowed to take your best 5 divisionals out of 8,yet some divisions only have 5 divisionals to begin with,which forces a lot of additional travel.Maybe best 5 of 6 or 7?

That being said,I still don't understand what this has to do with Pro Tree and Deep staging which started this whole thread.

[Mark Faul]

I agree, what does the latest rant have to do with the pro tree idea?

Don, you only use bits and pieces of various posts to make your point. Mike Carr stated his stats based on two car AND/OR touring pro sportsman racers. The current points system makes it pretty fair for anyone to have an opportunity to be world champion. I went to 16 national events. Did I have an advantage over anyone in points? NO! Because you can only claim your best 3 out of the first 6 you attend!

Are you really complaining about the "touring pros" or all 2 car racers? Most 2 car guys don't come up late on purpose. Sometimes you get stuck ay the scales, fuel check, getting back to your pit to get the other car, and then hauling *** back to the lanes. HOPING you have time to collect your breath and have a few seconds to check your tires and putting a dial-in on the car!

It seems you bring up these same complaints about the touring pros every 2-3 years.....