IHRA raises Sportsman purses!

[Mark Callanan]

I am not sure I understand this
Ihra cuts our racing days to 2 from 3 and they charge more?
How do we get less for more and people arent upset?
I have to say if this was NHRA doing this people on here would yell and scream
Why does IHRA get a free pass and NHRA doesnt?

[Myron Piatek]

Originally Posted by mark callanan

I am not sure I understand this
Ihra cuts our racing days to 2 from 3 and they charge more?
How do we get less for more and people arent upset?
I have to say if this was NHRA doing this people on here would yell and scream
Why does IHRA get a free pass and NHRA doesnt?

Why does it matter how many days it takes for qualifying and eliminations? If it's possible to do it in 2 days instead of 3, then there is a whole day of expenses one doesn't have to worry about.

Admittedly, IHRA fields tend to be smaller than NHRA fields. That allows them to get it done quicker. If things go well and car counts get bigger and require more time, hopefully the schedule will be adjusted in the future. A big factor is that Sportsman qualifying and eliminations won't be "interrupted" by scheduled Pro runs. Pros don't run until the late afternoon or evening on either day.

The insurance increase wasn't expected. I don't know why the increase was implimented, so I can't say if it is justified.

[Mark Callanan]

Originally Posted by Myron Piatek

Why does it matter how many days it takes for qualifying and eliminations? If it's possible to do it in 2 days instead of 3, then there is a whole day of expenses one doesn't have to worry about.

Admittedly, IHRA fields tend to be smaller than NHRA fields. That allows them to get it done quicker. If things go well and car counts get bigger and require more time, hopefully the schedule will be adjusted in the future. A big factor is that Sportsman qualifying and eliminations won't be "interrupted" by scheduled Pro runs. Pros don't run until the late afternoon or evening on either day.

The insurance increase wasn't expected. I don't know why the increase was implimented, so I can't say if it is justified.

Simple
To me anyways because we are paying for 3 days and now it is 2
And now they charge us more for less
You see to me anyways it is simple
In IHRA I dont attend all the races so the one I do race at I want the most for my money spent
I dont want less time shots
Myron no offence but you wave the IHRA flag way to much to be neutral
I hope most class racers still believe in what we do

And I dont want to be led like a sheep do with no questions asked
We all need to ask why we pay more for less....

[Brandon Peterson]

Originally Posted by mark callanan

Simple
To me anyways because we are paying for 3 days and now it is 2
And now they charge us more for less
You see to me anyways it is simple
In IHRA I dont attend all the races so the one I do race at I want the most for my money spent
I dont want less time shots
Myron no offence but you wave the IHRA flag way to much to be neutral
I hope most class racers still believe in what we do

And I dont want to be led like a sheep do with no questions asked
We all need to ask why we pay more for less....

you still get your 2 qualifying runs that you always got...you just get to race the same day you qaulify..i know alot of people that will be very happy to do that....i dont see that anyone is loosing anything but one less day off of work....i like the fact that the purse is up and the days off work are down

[Adger Smith]

Joe,
As a former multi track owner and operator from the Good Old Days I would like to try to answer your question on insurance in the past. First let me say this is in no way intended to point out anything bad at either NHRA or IHRA or the current insurance companies. I'm Just telling it like it is from my side of the fence.
I ran my tracks under both NHRA and IHRA and as independent. In the past you bought track insurance based on the type of race your having and the duration. When I ran bracket races for one day I paid a set amount. When I stepped up and had a Pro Comp race (Alky funnies & alky dragsters) I had to pay a different rate and it also had a length of event, by day cost. 2 days cost more than 1 day and 3 cost more than 2 days, ect.
The policy had to be paid in full up front. It also had a deadline for payment and a deadline for payment for running a day long because of rain or delay.
As a track owner I paid the insurance. I usually just figured it in as part of the entry fees. I always knew up front what the cost was. I don't think It was ever based on number of participants or attendance, just the type of event.
Back in my day the only racers that got in free were the booked in shows. With all the Free Pros and booked in show formats of today who pays for their insurance? Could these 2 days the sportsmen race with the additional insurance fees be what pays the insurance for the Pro days and booked in show days? If I remember correctly the rates for insurance increased drastically if blower cars and exotic fuel cars were run. I'm pretty sure it is the same way today.
That always told me the slower sportsman cars were safer and caused less death and destruction than the pros or Shows that had blowers and exotic fuel. It would be interesting to check the frequency of claims on the insurance companies and see who really costs more. Shouldn't the spectator that comes to see these shows be responsible for paying "Their' insurance coverage, not the sportsman that is out of there by the time the show starts???

[buzzinhalfdozen]

Adger, thanks for the reply. As I stated not too many years ago we paid no insurance charges so it had to be paid somehow I just wasn't sure who paid it. So why can't I be self insured? My understanding is that their coverage doesn't even start until your personel insurance has been exhausted. I'm not going to complain about another $10 I'm complainig about the fact that we get caught holding the bag for ALL of the coverage for everyone! Also if I'm not mistaken they've quit paying 1st round winners, if I read it right, so they've just redistributed the wealth, kinda like Mr. O intends on doing. Joe

[THE LEGEND]

The way track prep has been lately there probably crashing more sportsman than pro.
Chip

[novassdude]

I think what people are trying to say is they used to have to pay insurance for 3 days (they being IHRA) now they only have to pay for 2 days insurance. Yet they raised the price to the racers.

[Ed Fernandez]

***

[Jimi B]

Exactly. Trust me, 90% of the time I would rather be at the race track than anywhere else. But as far as what you are paying for to race, you are not losing anything. Sure the extra day to catch up with your racing friends is great, and making laps is fun too. You can go to test and tune if you want to do that. But when you get to this level of racing, a lot of racers think bottom dollar. I think its a good move on there part. Im hoping next year will be my first venture in to class racing for myself, but I never really considered IHRA racing. maybe I will now.