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Old 11-16-2009, 03:09 PM   #1
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It took basically 3 hours to run one round of time runs on Thursday at Rockingham. we started 2 rounds at 1:30 and finished around 8pm. I was near the front of 2nd rd T/D(last class out) and my time slip said 7:44 pm I believe. Maybe the guys from Piedmont can come down and run the race for them... :P
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Old 11-16-2009, 04:01 PM   #2
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In div 9 we usually get over 200 cars at a div race. They normally start around noon and are done in around 5 hours with no TT. Add 3 hours for TT and you're looking at 8 hrs.
Start at 9 done well before dark.
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Micheal,
That 3 hr TT included the Sportsnational cars.
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Old 11-16-2009, 06:21 PM   #4
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I'm going to do my part in helping to speed up the race. I'm not going back!!!!
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Just took notice that TOC rescheduled on top of Div 1 opener Atco,N.J.. I would think Bryan won"t be going either.
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Old 11-17-2009, 06:42 AM   #6
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Yes I know chip, how many cars do you think will be there for Saturdays race. Yes the TOC will get done first but the allstars and springnats will most likely run over until monday again based on there being a similar amount of cars for that race. And thus another 6 days off work to start the year. And better be careful there Chip, you sound like a hypocrite when you say you don't want to travel for the other shootout. lol
Which raises another question, why do they have the larger payout races in NC? If you're from out of state you lose 4% of the prize money before you even get it! Why does NC deserve a piece of the prize money, they extort and prosecute their own, just ask the Binghams. By the time you make two trips to NC, pay NC taxes and then ultimately ones own state and federal taxes at the end of the year, you'd be lucky to net $6000 of the original $10,000!! Am I the only one who sees this? I mean is that why they moved the Moser shootout after only one year? 4% of $22,500 is an unpleasant hit. Especially after you already did a split.
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Old 11-17-2009, 07:59 AM   #7
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Why does NC deserve a piece of the prize money, they extort and prosecute their own,

WAKE UP it is just a matter of time before other states do the same thing!! If you earn $$ in NC it is taxed as income which it is! Just like if you were working in Detroit then you would owe Detroit City Income tax!!! Just a sign of the times. If you don't agree with this then just don't go to those states.




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Yes I know chip, how many cars do you think will be there for Saturdays race. Yes the TOC will get done first but the allstars and springnats will most likely run over until monday again based on there being a similar amount of cars for that race. And thus another 6 days off work to start the year. And better be careful there Chip, you sound like a hypocrite when you say you don't want to travel for the other shootout. lol
Which raises another question, why do they have the larger payout races in NC? If you're from out of state you lose 4% of the prize money before you even get it! Why does NC deserve a piece of the prize money, they extort and prosecute their own, just ask the Binghams. By the time you make two trips to NC, pay NC taxes and then ultimately ones own state and federal taxes at the end of the year, you'd be lucky to net $6000 of the original $10,000!! Am I the only one who sees this? I mean is that why they moved the Moser shootout after only one year? 4% of $22,500 is an unpleasant hit. Especially after you already did a split.

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Old 11-17-2009, 01:43 PM   #8
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I mean is that why they moved the Moser shootout after only one year?
When was the Moser Shootout ever in NC? It was at VMP for several years, Norwalk once or twice, and then has been at US131 since.

If I recall, the "out-of-towners" tax is applied to those making more than $1,501, so this would only effect the Pros, the All Stars winner, and the winner of TS or TD.

That being said, YES, taxes are the one thing that sucks about this state. They jacked our sales tax to 7.75% this summer, and raised fees on a bunch of things. Way to go, Ms. Governor.
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