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Old 10-11-2009, 04:21 PM   #1
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So, if the car is a 383 combo to fit gt/ea

And no 383 cars had factory scoops, how is it that he can run that , not to mention all the other items

Like alum heads, etc, etc. ?
The car its self is a Hemi car (it could also be a Max Wedge body with the dropped center on the scoop and be legal) with alum front end that came with a straight across the top hood scoop so the hood scoop is legal for GT/EA (Alum hood....not fiberglass in NHRA.....fiberglass in IHRA ONLY). If the engine installed was avaliable with fresh air it is allowed to use the existing scoop. I havent heard a straight answer about what if the engine was not a cold air version. Some say OK some say NO????????
As far as the engine goes I do not know of any 383/440 legal to use alum heads. Still waiting for all the Hemi experts out there to tell me whats the deal on the 1964 hood pins. Henged or pined or both????

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Old 10-11-2009, 04:31 PM   #2
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Want to stir up more "POOP" ? Which wheelbase is legal? The Hemi cars came with a 1 inch shorter wheelbase than the Max wedge or 383 cars.
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Old 10-11-2009, 04:52 PM   #3
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Default Re: 64 Plymouth GT/EA in Ennis

Terry,
Bringing up wheel base....that's not fair. Stir, stir.. LOL! There is only one legal wheel base. You know, the wheelbase has to do with the original car/combo chosen.
Just ask me all about wheelbase. I've earned the right to be an expert.
I guess you could split the one inch difference (between Hemi and Max wedge) and it would still make the 3/4" rule and be legal.
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Old 10-11-2009, 04:58 PM   #4
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Hinged. Most had two front pins though.
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Old 10-11-2009, 05:29 PM   #5
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The Chuck Raburn car was Tim Heberts car which was Jim Hale's car who built it as a clone. A very good car. I suspect Jim has just built another clone. He may have the hood scoop worked in smooth, but I doubt if its glass. Lift off mmmmmm our original had hinges.
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Old 10-11-2009, 05:35 PM   #6
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Hinged. Most had two front pins though.
Maybe it was a change as they were built ??? but the pictures I have show 4 hood pins and complete removal of the hood in the pits and placed on the roof of the cars. (Both Dodge and Plymouth). Hayden Profitts, Roger Lindamood, Dan "smoker" smith and a solid red Dodge that I cant identify. Maybe one of the "Senior" Hemi (1964) racers will read this thread and comment. Thanks for your comments.
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Old 10-16-2009, 12:09 AM   #7
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Still waiting for all the Hemi experts out there to tell me whats the deal on the 1964 hood pins. Henged or pined or both????
my aluminum hood is from a maxwedge car it is a hinged hood. i always understood that only the aluminum sedan "savoy's" had 4 hood pins.
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my aluminum hood is from a maxwedge car it is a hinged hood. i always understood that only the aluminum sedan "savoy's" had 4 hood pins.
The 1964 Hemi Alum front end 2 door Plymouth Savoys and 330 Dodge 2 door sedans assembly line produced for S/S (and A/FX) are the cars I was refering to and are the ones that CAME factory equiped with 4 threaded rods and large wing nuts to hold the hoods on with. I was NOT talking about the Belvedere 2 door hard tops (alum or steel) or made up cars like Dave Wrens Fury hard top. Farmer could have made them do anything back in the day. and it became a "trickel down" effect after all of the 45+ years.
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The 1964 Hemi Alum front end 2 door Plymouth Savoys and 330 Dodge 2 door sedans assembly line produced for S/S (and A/FX) are the cars I was refering to and are the ones that CAME factory equiped with 4 threaded rods and large wing nuts to hold the hoods on with. I was NOT talking about the Belvedere 2 door hard tops (alum or steel) or made up cars like Dave Wrens Fury hard top. Farmer could have made them do anything back in the day. and it became a "trickel down" effect after all of the 45+ years.
i still have the paper work from farmer if i can figure how to scan and post it i will.
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The 1964 Hemi Alum front end 2 door Plymouth Savoys and 330 Dodge 2 door sedans assembly line produced for S/S (and A/FX) are the cars I was refering to and are the ones that CAME factory equiped with 4 threaded rods and large wing nuts to hold the hoods on with. I was NOT talking about the Belvedere 2 door hard tops (alum or steel) or made up cars like Dave Wrens Fury hard top. Farmer could have made them do anything back in the day. and it became a "trickel down" effect after all of the 45+ years.
On page 124 Hemi The Ultimate American V-8 book It shows a 1964 Dodge Hemi with 4 hood pins coming of the assembly line.On page 25 Nov. 1994 Super Stock & Drag Illustrated it shows a 1964 Pic.at the US Nationals of Color Me Gone with 4 hood Pins.
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