Nitrous and .90 racing

[FlyingMonkey2565]

OK guys cool your tempers. It's not personal.
The main reason NOS is not permitted is because of the"Unfair Advantage" factor.

Unfair Advantage: for example- you launch and on take off you know you spin badly,you are behind as you approach the finishline. You hit the nitrous which shoots you forward to take the finishline. Giving your competition no fair chance to DRIVE the finishline.

Now, all NOS users will not use it like this, but it's there so that they can if they choose. So remove the NOS and remove the Unfair Advantage factor.

Get it? Now stop calling each other names and behave. We want more 10.90 racers to join us, not think we're a bunch of Monkeys.

[Michael Pliska]

Originally Posted by FlyingMonkey2565

OK guys cool your tempers. It's not personal.
The main reason NOS is not permitted is because of the"Unfair Advantage" factor.

Unfair Advantage: for example- you launch and on take off you know you spin badly,you are behind as you approach the finishline. You hit the nitrous which shoots you forward to take the finishline. Giving your competition no fair chance to DRIVE the finishline.

Now, all NOS users will not use it like this, but it's there so that they can if they choose. So remove the NOS and remove the Unfair Advantage factor.

Get it? Now stop calling each other names and behave. We want more 10.90 racers to join us, not think we're a bunch of Monkeys.

Ed,
That's the way it was explained to me 20+ years ago, but I used my throttle stop override the exact same way (my stop was just activated by a switch on the shifter). Of course the massive speeds in .90 racing today kinda negates that advantage.

Regards,
Michael Pliska

[FlyingMonkey2565]

Yep Michael
That's what we all did back in the "olden days".
But we couldn't take the finishline with 150-250hp burst with any thing but Nitrous.

Originally Posted by Michael Pliska

Ed,
That's the way it was explained to me 20+ years ago, but I used my throttle stop override the exact same way (my stop was just activated by a switch on the shifter). Of course the massive speeds in .90 racing today kinda negates that advantage.

Regards,
Michael Pliska

Yep

[Villain281H]

Ed,

Nothing personal; just defending my my fat lazy *** side.
I pose this question: if nitrous is such an unfair advantage in a class where the key is to run your index/dial-in, why isn't EVERY BRACKET RACER USING IT? Maybe because if you dial YOUR car correctly and cut the tree, it doesn't matter what the other guy does. He could whack the gas a dozen times, I'm still driving the stripe the same.
And for the record, I'd be using the spray on a timer to run the 10.90 standard. Funny thing about timers, I hear some index racers use them.

Originally Posted by Michael Pliska

Ed,
That's the way it was explained to me 20+ years ago, but I used my throttle stop override the exact same way (my stop was just activated by a switch on the shifter). Of course the massive speeds in .90 racing today kinda negates that advantage.

Regards,
Michael Pliska

Thank you, we have a winner! Nitrous isn't allowed, but what's to stop you from running a mega-horsepower set-up on the throttle stop til the last 100 feet then go wide open throttle? Nothing in the rules against that, or hitting the override if you "spin", or even running 150+ mph in a class where some guys are going 125-130 like a 10 second car would. But nitrous isn't allowed, and beyond the "possible" hazards of idiots not paying attention to their set-ups, it's an unfair advantage?? Well I guess I just don't "get it" according to Mr. Moore.

I see people warming their race cars up on jacks instead of jack stands. Dangerous, and yes could cause a nasty accident. Have we stopped selling jacks? Fuel burns with a match, but we still sell fuel. Should we punish all b/c of one example?

Dan, I had a small talk with Snakes recently. Since you now know who I am, maybe next time you will consider thinking before typing. I understand everything can be used for good AND bad, but maybe try seeing the "other side" next time instead of being too quick to judge without having ALL THE FACTS.

All in good debate,

Derek

[dhmoore]

Your right i dont know you. And you will never understand the diff. Between the two power adders. And we are a long ways from running ( nitro methane ) you just will not get it.. End of story........

Too explode a engine with a blower or turbo, you need to have a engine failuer, not the fuel..... Nos, like i said is a chemical

look at the flash points of
gas
alcohol
nitro methane
nos

its not the liquid that burns, its the fumes. You dont need compression for nos to fire, i still have an open mind. but you will never tell me that it is fair to race nos in the .90 classes

[dhmoore]

momy i dont want to be a monkey, i want to be a (DONKEY) HAHAHAHAH..how am i doin?????

[ItsyBitsySpider]

Dan, I'm glad you don't really talk like you type (no one would ever understand you).
I suggest we all start saving our pennies to buy you a spell check... and don't worry hon, you're a donkey most of the time

Originally Posted by dhmoore

momy i dont want to be a monkey, i want to be a (DONKEY) HAHAHAHAH..how am i doin?????

[MacNicol Racing]

Originally Posted by ItsyBitsySpider

Dan, I'm glad you don't really talk like you type (no one would ever understand you).
I suggest we all start saving our pennies to buy you a spell check... and don't worry hon, you're a donkey most of the time

You understand Dan when he's talking? I just look at him smile and nod my head every once and a while.

[ItsyBitsySpider]

Hi Derek
Actually, you're wrong. The Southern 10.90 Outlaw Association welcomes new faces with open arms. But like any good organization we have rules.
No weight Minimum, No nitrous, No illegal electronics to name just a few.

We can debate the nitrous issue until we're blue, but the bottom line is that it is not allowed. Sorry.

We have many heavy and street legal cars racing with us. You would be welcome to join us. (I like feisty people)
May I suggest picking Mike's brain to build a faster engine or saving up and purchasing a turbo system?
(I have a turbo car and there is no better way to boost your hp legally and within budget.)

Hope to see you at the track some time. I test at Gainesville.

[Chris Williams]

Not sure what the whole fight is about here. Nitrous is not legal in a .90 class because of the ability to control it down track. It's not important whether that's the case or not, or whether you can/can't dream up some scenario where that could/couldn't happen. I'm pretty darn sure that's why NHRA doesn't allow it.

But more important is the point that no amount of pissing and moaning about that rule on this forum will change anything. So... get over it, and then get out there and race. In .90 racing, the most important thing is practice, practice, practice. Practice hitting the tree. Practice dialing the number. Practice playing the stripe.