Thanks Findell, Mosbek, and Wann for the Hp!

[Greg Hill]

A good stock eliminator motor needs to make about 1.5 times it's rated hp on a conservative dyno. The 340 low compression Mopars do a little better than that. My motor does a little worse than that. All that being said there is more to making a stock eliminator car run that just the motor. These days you need a really trick trans, good converter and a whole lot more.

[RJ Sledge]

Greg

I agree with you........even if you do drive a Chevrolet. Does the fact that so many of these car running the 340/289 combo can run so far under surprise you? I hope that after Indy they (NHRA) will take a good look at the combo. I am not trying to sound mean, but what other combo in E and F have so many cars capable of running that far under. Are there many cars like yours that run that far under? I realize that its a "killer" combo, but I for one believe they need some HP. Indy proved that, even Ray Charles could see that!.

See you soon

RJ

[Greg Hill]

RJ, I agree with you, even though you drive a Ford. Oh by the way I now own a new Ford Flex. First Ford I've ever owned and love it.

[Greg Hill]

442 it looks to me like your motor needs to make about 540 hp to run 1.25 under. also everything else would need to be really good to do that.

[mitch kight]

First the Duster only has to weigh 3200lbs to run FSA. If someone tells you there 340 motor makes 500hp, you should use there dyno so yours can make 800hp. The 340 is a good combo and it does make more than 1.5 per but it does not make 500 are 480 are 460hp. That is a big fish story. I had one of these and it was pretty fast and it did not make anywhere close to these numbers. I vote that RJ is Number 1 on the bs. He has always been there and will always keep that spot. He is the King!

[james schaechter]

Originally Posted by mitch kight

First the Duster only has to weigh 3200lbs to run FSA. If someone tells you there 340 motor makes 500hp, you should use there dyno so yours can make 800hp. The 340 is a good combo and it does make more than 1.5 per but it does not make 500 are 480 are 460hp. That is a big fish story. I had one of these and it was pretty fast and it did not make anywhere close to these numbers. I vote that RJ is Number 1 on the bs. He has always been there and will always keep that spot. He is the King!

I remember seeing yours at the Orlando test session. I think it was when you sold it. Went in the high tens if I remember right. I just remember it being so fast, I figured one of those with a stick would be killer.

A lot of fast ones out there. I think it is hilarious how this thread started though. BTW I saw one in the barn too. No issues. Good combo for sure.

[Ven302]

The dangerous thing here is that all the 1000 foot "divers" (NOT DRIVERS) are ruining it for the fans.
I was at Indy for Thursday and Friday to watch my favourite classes, Stock and Super Stock. It is a dissapointment to go there and see cars lifting during the qualifying passes, but to watch so many cars try to nose an opponent in class and some even getting whizzed themselves by trying to protect the horsepower, geesh. Whats next throttle stops? My car has never been as fast as the "class"of SS/CS
but I try very hard to be as fast as I can be and savour the day when I can go to Indy with enough under the hood to make my opponent wonder if he has enough for me. If I can cast that doubt I will be pretty happy. When they show how fast they really can be I just know I have to work harder.

My point is it is called racing, Pinks is succesful because they do not put up with sand baggers, we as a class do not want to be grouped with the "super bracket" classes but with that kind of showing how could that not happen? This is very dangerous ground and could surely result in the same exodus of fans during our run sessions that the other classes have created.

ARE YOU SURE that protecting you horsepower is that important?

I applaud anybody that has the guts to lay it all on the line ( the finish line) and say this is my best sXXt, catch me if you can! If we all protected horsepower, we would eventually never strive to go faster.

Venice Perno
SS/CS 3041

[RJ Sledge]

Mitch

Good to hear from you, I understand that you're out of the country for a while. I appreciate the vote of support for me being the biggest BS'r, its taken me 65 years of awfully hard work to attain all that. I was bought up in the car business and have been selling and BSing since I was about 15 years old. Sold my first New Ford Truck (64 F100 Custom Cab with the big 6) when I was 17. I have heard and delivered about as much BS as any body, If there is any award for attaining this lofty position I would accept it gladly. Knowing so much about BS and all that comes with it is a very enlighting life experience.

I do have a Top 10 BS List, and you will never guess what my Top Pick is.

My official number one BS award must go to the Mopar 340/289 HP Combo, nothing else is even close. And like you and others have said I know a lot about BS, and what took place at INDY should establish without question that the Combo needs HP.

No hard feelings Bud, I look forward to seeing you back in the States and at the races.

R J Sledge
#1 BS'r

Originally Posted by mitch kight

First the Duster only has to weigh 3200lbs to run FSA. If someone tells you there 340 motor makes 500hp, you should use there dyno so yours can make 800hp. The 340 is a good combo and it does make more than 1.5 per but it does not make 500 are 480 are 460hp. That is a big fish story. I had one of these and it was pretty fast and it did not make anywhere close to these numbers. I vote that RJ is Number 1 on the bs. He has always been there and will always keep that spot. He is the King!

[Jeff Lee]

A really good stocker is 1.25 to 1.35 x CID. Remember a bored & stroked stocker is usually about 12 CID over advertised.
1.5 is an absolute killer #1 qualifier at most any event...as long as everything else is up to par (or better). Likewise, you can suffer a little on the HP if you have everything else that is super-primo. I'm not sure what language that is but you get the idea.

[bsa633]

Originally Posted by Greg Hill

These days you need a really trick trans, good converter and a whole lot more.

The "small mopars" have one of the best transmissions ava. almost from the factory..so if you drive something else you need the best thing out there to be on the same level in that area...so in the past it was not all about the engine itself...but all-in-all its still about a engine/trans combo so if they need power is up to the "powers" so to say..i also think thats why you havent seen very many mopars running stick-shift from past to present...the engines maybe werent good enough when you took the automatic out of the combo!