Ramon Lowe '58 Cheifton

Rich Biebel · 06-25-2009, 07:40 PM

The F.I. unit I had came off a car sitting on a farm in Flemington,NJ. It was a very rare car....a '58 SuperChief. There were long wheelbase and short wheelbase '58 Pontiacs. Bonneville's and SuperChiefs were longer wheelbase and StarChiefs and Chieftains were shorter. That SuperChief had a stock CAST manifold F.I. unit...no sheet metal.....It also had the fender emblems on it and I took those also. They sat on my basement wall for 30+ years. I sold them on Ebay a couple years ago. The F.I. unit I sold many years ago thru Nat'l Dragster. I think Fred Borcherdt had a '57 Safari wagon tow car and it had a F.I. unit on it. I wanted to build one of those but could never find one. I bought an engine for my '58 that was supposed to be from Jay Hamilton or Ramon Lowe thru Craig Muller. Craig had a black '58 with a 315 hp F.I. engine and it ran very fast and won class at Indy if I recall right. He got some help from Ralph Truppi at T/K's on that car. Craig was also a bowler and did the Pro tour for a few years and was on TV a few times.....He qualified first once for the ABC saturday show. I always watched those shows as I was also an avid bowler. My '58 was my first nice car. I borrowed a 4.56 chunk from Craig and drove it to the track and even towed our racecar ( a 57 sedan delivery) to the track like that. Was a little on the noisy side!!! I had a McKeller cam for the '58 but am not sure if I had that in there then....Those were solid cams and would have made a heck of a lot of noise with that rear gear in there!!!

mopar68 · 08-11-2009, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

Craig was also a bowler and did the Pro tour for a few years and was on TV a few times.....He qualified first once for the ABC saturday show. I always watched those shows as I was also an avid bowler.

Ha! I remember that program! I used to watch it too, Saturday afternoons, before ABC's Wide World of Sports came on.

Hmmm...now who was the top bowling champ back then? Oh yeah, Earl Anthony!

M68

Jimmy R Parker · 08-11-2009, 02:07 PM

Bill, I was also at the '57 Nationals and the John Zink Pontiacs impressed me as much as anything there. I was fourteen at the time and caught a disease that I still have today.

Jimmy

Rich Biebel · 08-11-2009, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mopar68

Ha! I remember that program! I used to watch it too, Saturday afternoons, before ABC's Wide World of Sports came on.

Hmmm...now who was the top bowling champ back then? Oh yeah, Earl Anthony!

M68

I rarely missed a show....I watched that show every week and taped it if I wasn't home....I loved bowling and bowled 3 nights a week at one time. Averaged about 175-180 20 years ago....

Earl was "The Man" for sure but I was a big fan of Dick Weber......Shot from way outside and very little hook but really roped them in there when the presure was on.....I bowled a lot and that was my shot...outside down and in. I have 2 league champion trophy's and they sit next to my Wally's.....

rayfin · 08-11-2009, 09:45 PM

Who's mom is that in the picture?

bill dedman · 08-11-2009, 10:06 PM

Jimmy Parker..

It got us all...

06-25-2009, 07:40 PM	#1
Rich Biebel VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern New Jersey suburbs Posts: 2,320 Likes: 25 Liked 557 Times in 217 Posts	Re: Ramon Lowe '58 Cheifton The F.I. unit I had came off a car sitting on a farm in Flemington,NJ. It was a very rare car....a '58 SuperChief. There were long wheelbase and short wheelbase '58 Pontiacs. Bonneville's and SuperChiefs were longer wheelbase and StarChiefs and Chieftains were shorter. That SuperChief had a stock CAST manifold F.I. unit...no sheet metal.....It also had the fender emblems on it and I took those also. They sat on my basement wall for 30+ years. I sold them on Ebay a couple years ago. The F.I. unit I sold many years ago thru Nat'l Dragster. I think Fred Borcherdt had a '57 Safari wagon tow car and it had a F.I. unit on it. I wanted to build one of those but could never find one. I bought an engine for my '58 that was supposed to be from Jay Hamilton or Ramon Lowe thru Craig Muller. Craig had a black '58 with a 315 hp F.I. engine and it ran very fast and won class at Indy if I recall right. He got some help from Ralph Truppi at T/K's on that car. Craig was also a bowler and did the Pro tour for a few years and was on TV a few times.....He qualified first once for the ABC saturday show. I always watched those shows as I was also an avid bowler. My '58 was my first nice car. I borrowed a 4.56 chunk from Craig and drove it to the track and even towed our racecar ( a 57 sedan delivery) to the track like that. Was a little on the noisy side!!! I had a McKeller cam for the '58 but am not sure if I had that in there then....Those were solid cams and would have made a heck of a lot of noise with that rear gear in there!!! __________________ Rich Biebel S/C 1479 Stock 147R Last edited by Rich Biebel; 06-25-2009 at 07:43 PM.

08-11-2009, 02:07 PM	#3
Jimmy R Parker Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Columbus, Ga Posts: 32 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Ramon Lowe '58 Cheifton Bill, I was also at the '57 Nationals and the John Zink Pontiacs impressed me as much as anything there. I was fourteen at the time and caught a disease that I still have today. Jimmy

08-11-2009, 09:45 PM	#5
rayfin Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: sioux city Posts: 134 Likes: 1 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Ramon Lowe '58 Cheifton Who's mom is that in the picture?

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bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Ramon Lowe '58 Cheifton Jimmy Parker.. It got us all... Attached Thumbnails __________________ Bill Last edited by bill dedman; 08-11-2009 at 10:08 PM.

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