Fred Henson vs. Sorenson

James Perrone · 05-05-2009, 07:02 AM

Trust me
Dan Knows DRAG RACING!

herbjr · 05-05-2009, 07:08 AM

I dont care one way or another as I dont run this combo. But you guys now wonder why NHRA and IHRA love the 90 classes and Top Dragster/Top Sportsman. As a former track operator I can tell you this is nothing but fuel on a candle. Why have a fire when we can burn a candle. Think about that one. I know you guys are pissed, BUT NOONE HAS OFFICIALLY SAID IF HE DRAINED THE WATER TO BE LIGHT OR NOT.

Dan I know of a past comp world champ and current engine builder that would put his driving suit in the tow vehicle and drain the water to keep from getting a perm. hit years ago. This is nothing new it just got attention now.

Herb Jr

fredjohnston · 05-05-2009, 07:16 AM

Why do racers put themselves in these situations and force NHRA to make tough/unpopular decisions?

If racers just follow the rules and normal procedures they have done for years, then they wouldn't find themselves in these situations.

If he did infact drain the radiator, this is not the "normal" procedures and it was done to avoid HP. This is going to force NHRA to come up with another rule and/or make an unpopular decision. But who forced NHRA to do this?????

Dan Fletcher · 05-05-2009, 07:30 AM

Jack,

obviously, one isn't allowed to alter the weight of the vehicle - either way - prior to scaling. I'm simply stating that the rulebook doesn't call out that point. I know how to put a seatbelt on, too, but the airline still tells me every time...

Two good points were then made. Pare is right, we need a rulebook that stipulates every possible situation, because if someone thinks they can get over on the system, they'll try. And Herb is right, that's why NHRA will eventually tire of our bull**** and just run .90 and Top whatever...

George Fitzpatrick · 05-05-2009, 08:10 AM

"Vulcan logic" Dan now that's funny.

Dick Butler · 05-05-2009, 09:37 AM

Rule would be nice but supervision better. I ran class once at the US nationals and my competetor ran without water in his radiator to save HP of fan/Pump. He just acted suprised as he walked to the faucet with the water jug he just happened to have in the car on the run. Result he won class with his fastest run of class.

Bobby Brannon · 05-05-2009, 09:47 AM

1 633 B/SA Hal Sorensen, Vancouver WA, '69 Camaro 10.142 11.93 -1.788 EQUAL = -1.408 Sea Level

For WHAT REASON who know's

1st pass was - 1.395 under sea level
2nd pass was - 1.25? under """""""""
3rd pass was - 1.408 under """""""""

WHY???????????????????????????????????????????????

Go Figure out why anyone woulld do that.. Rule book states - 1.40 under pull piston and head

I am TOTALLY CONFUSED

junior barns · 05-05-2009, 10:10 AM

Did the run count or not?????????????

05-05-2009, 07:02 AM	#1
James Perrone VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LONG ISLAND N.Y. Posts: 1,679 Likes: 3,383 Liked 1,826 Times in 426 Posts	Re: Fred Henson vs. Sorenson Trust me Dan Knows DRAG RACING! __________________ james perrone 1290 STK

05-05-2009, 07:08 AM	#2
herbjr VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Greensboro NC Posts: 1,027 Likes: 1 Liked 83 Times in 32 Posts	Re: Fred Henson vs. Sorenson I dont care one way or another as I dont run this combo. But you guys now wonder why NHRA and IHRA love the 90 classes and Top Dragster/Top Sportsman. As a former track operator I can tell you this is nothing but fuel on a candle. Why have a fire when we can burn a candle. Think about that one. I know you guys are pissed, BUT NOONE HAS OFFICIALLY SAID IF HE DRAINED THE WATER TO BE LIGHT OR NOT. Dan I know of a past comp world champ and current engine builder that would put his driving suit in the tow vehicle and drain the water to keep from getting a perm. hit years ago. This is nothing new it just got attention now. Herb Jr

05-05-2009, 07:16 AM	#3
fredjohnston Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 341 Likes: 0 Liked 55 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Fred Henson vs. Sorenson Why do racers put themselves in these situations and force NHRA to make tough/unpopular decisions? If racers just follow the rules and normal procedures they have done for years, then they wouldn't find themselves in these situations. If he did infact drain the radiator, this is not the "normal" procedures and it was done to avoid HP. This is going to force NHRA to come up with another rule and/or make an unpopular decision. But who forced NHRA to do this?????

05-05-2009, 07:30 AM	#4
Dan Fletcher Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Churchville, NY Posts: 493 Likes: 129 Liked 1,045 Times in 70 Posts	Re: Fred Henson vs. Sorenson Jack, obviously, one isn't allowed to alter the weight of the vehicle - either way - prior to scaling. I'm simply stating that the rulebook doesn't call out that point. I know how to put a seatbelt on, too, but the airline still tells me every time... Two good points were then made. Pare is right, we need a rulebook that stipulates every possible situation, because if someone thinks they can get over on the system, they'll try. And Herb is right, that's why NHRA will eventually tire of our bull** and just run .90 and Top whatever... __________________ Dan Fletcher 1781 STK, SS, COMP, SG, SC DAN FLETCHER TRAILER SALES**

05-05-2009, 08:10 AM	#5
George Fitzpatrick Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: West Babylon, NY Posts: 344 Likes: 119 Liked 94 Times in 24 Posts	Re: Fred Henson vs. Sorenson "Vulcan logic" Dan now that's funny. __________________ George Fitzpatrick 426 HEMI STK, SS

05-05-2009, 09:37 AM	#6
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Fred Henson vs. Sorenson Rule would be nice but supervision better. I ran class once at the US nationals and my competetor ran without water in his radiator to save HP of fan/Pump. He just acted suprised as he walked to the faucet with the water jug he just happened to have in the car on the run. Result he won class with his fastest run of class.

05-05-2009, 09:47 AM	#7
Bobby Brannon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Bossier City,La. Posts: 659 Likes: 3 Liked 104 Times in 35 Posts	Re: Fred Henson vs. Sorenson 1 633 B/SA Hal Sorensen, Vancouver WA, '69 Camaro 10.142 11.93 -1.788 EQUAL = -1.408 Sea Level For WHAT REASON who know's 1st pass was - 1.395 under sea level 2nd pass was - 1.25? under """"""""" 3rd pass was - 1.408 under """"""""" WHY??????????????????????????????????????????????? Go Figure out why anyone woulld do that.. Rule book states - 1.40 under pull piston and head I am TOTALLY CONFUSED __________________ Bobby Brannon 4705 STK, SS Last edited by Bobby Brannon; 05-05-2009 at 11:58 AM.

05-05-2009, 10:10 AM	#8
junior barns Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 541 Likes: 11 Liked 20 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Fred Henson vs. Sorenson Did the run count or not?????????????

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