A new idea for the Super Stock GT Class

[Colin Wigle]

I believe that the GREEN move will eventually be the biggest battle for motorsports as we no them. Maybe a good proposal would be E85 or pump gas as an excepted fuel for s/ss.
With all the combined classes in stock makes for some great racing lots of heads up! Super stock could use some of that.
I think the proposal is too watered down and insulting to all the OEMs. There are many classes for such combos. (Super pro)

[BlueOval Ralph]

AND I supose YOU invented the Front to Rear Wheel Drive Coversion cars also??????.. YOU have been reading your own Press Relases and now beleive THEM???

Originally Posted by Don Kennedy

Ok I see some issues. I now have to ask the question about the present cars like the GTO in pro stock or any of the last two to three years car models is where are they build?

The next Question I need answered is will the American car companies in the Future really care about performance?

The next question I have to ask is where will the new racers come from?
Or what type of car would they like to race?

Where is any money going to come from to support Super Stock racing?

Where is the Money going to come from to support NHRA sportsman in the future ?

hmm there are NO American car companies now or in the future going to support the performance end of Super stock in my opinion heck they may not even be around as we used to know them

Why would anyone be scared of the new body styles?

The American engines will be in the new body styles,especillay since there are no engines even remotely known in the foreign cars for any specs or power ?

I remember well when i wrote the GT rules and submitted them to NHRA in the early 80's via thru Zimmerman to Dave Danish there were the same concerns about Super Stock racing then (look at the results of my action a very sucessful GT racing class)and Now i say we must move forward or be left behind for ever.

FJ a new surge in car builders building race cars .

another question I just about bet a huge amount of cars and parts of cars are being build out of the USA . We can do nothing about it any more so we must adapt.

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Don Kennedy

Ok I see some issues. I now have to ask the question about the present cars like the GTO in pro stock or any of the last two to three years car models is where are they build?

another question I just about bet a huge amount of cars and parts of cars are being build out of the USA . We can do nothing about it any more so we must adapt.

Fortunately, the Chevy Cobalt is still mostly American (and on Cars.com's top ten list for American parts and sales list). It sucks however that a Toyota Tundra (@ 75% American parts content) appears to be more American than a Dodge Charger, or a Chevy HHR.

[GTO/GN]

Originally Posted by GarysZ24

I couldn't agree with you more bud, but I can't blame the products themselves, as much as I blame our government for rolling out the red carpet for them....by doing things such as lifting the tariffs that once were charged to all imported products (even when there was proven evidence that free trade went one way in Japan, by a Washington envoy to Japan..circa 1991 Associated Press), or letting them build manufacturing plants here in our country so as to free themselves from the tariffs by calling their products American (since they were built here)? Yeah right, built with parts that were imported from their true country of origin---the LAND OF THE RISING YEN!!! Furthermore, I would blame those millions of people who seem to feel that no-longer can their "Fellow American's" design, engineer, and build quality cars and trucks for our everyday usage---imagine telling your sons and daughters that because they are Americans, they can't produce a usable product as good/better than the Asian & European countries can...that's essentially what those of them who patronized (then/now) those companies instead of ours have done!!! I personally challenged a Washington spokesperson back in the early '90's who dared to come out to one of my communities schools to have us parents steer our children to service oriented jobs, because the manufacturing base was going overseas!!! WHAT A COPOUT!!!
I'll BE DAMNED IF I WAS GOING TO TELL MY CHILDREN THAT CRAP!!!

I'll tell you this, if I would've won a decent part of that mega-million lottery from last year, I sure would've tried to revitalize the "Timex" watch/clock company, and/or our former American tv makers "Zenith", "Magnavox", or "RCA"...remember them???

THIS COUNTRY WE LOVE DIDN'T BECOME SUCH BECAUSE OF "MADE IN JAPAN", OR ANYWHERE ELSE, "AMERICA EXISTS BECAUSE OF MADE IN THE USA", AND AMERICAN PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND ME!!!!

Now you all know another reason I feel the way I do about imports...that's my take, what's yours???

Well said... agree 100%...
And to Don Kennedy, This is just how I feel, and no one has to like it or agree with me its just how I feel.. Right or wrong its how I feel..
Yes I know the new GTO was not built here... But the profits from the sales of a Pontiac would end up with a American Company... Supporting American family's, American Jobs... Bottom line ends up in USA...
21,000 jobs at the factory level being cut, due to the closing of Pontiac. Not to mention all the suppliers that are going to have to lay off workers. Even tire manufactures will be cutting back on workers... no need for that many tires next year no Pontiacs to put them on...

[Jeff Teuton]

Don, there is an old Country & Western song "What Part of No Don't You Understand" which I will send you a copy.

[bill dedman]

Now can I build that Fiat 850 GT/A car with the SRT8 Hemi I've been daydreaming about ever since I hear that Mopar was gonna merge with Fiat???

[Don Kennedy]

Jeff: Believe me I get it for sure big time “ BUT” but I am not sure others see what I see ,hey I could be wrong but most likely not(in my opinion of course LOL at me )

If the American Car Companies are no longer are involved in Racing Then What???

Who will support Super Stock or even Pro Stock racing ??

Heck Pontiac is No longer around so what happens to The Pontiac Pro Stock Cars?

If Chevy is no longer involved in Racing then what ??

If Mopar is no longer involved in Drag Racing then what ???

Does anyone else have a plan to keep Super Stock racing going?

Or does everyone think The American Car Companies will still be involved?

I think they will drop the Performance end of all of the American Car Companies big time oh wait Pontiac is toast, Chevy has no ,zero plan to even be concerned about performance so far only a overweight Camaro and now Chrysler is owned by a foreign car company ???

Now Ford is on top of the performance plan which is good for racing .

So all of us don’t like the idea of just using another body style to use in Super Stock , this is not a good thing in my opinion cause soon all our cars will be not even sold to the public in any way, even the names will be gone so open up the options of at least using a body that is being sold on Monday after we raced it on Sunday as a options for racers to do

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by GTO/GN

Well said... agree 100%...
And to Don Kennedy, This is just how I feel, and no one has to like it or agree with me its just how I feel.. Right or wrong its how I feel..
Yes I know the new GTO was not built here... But the profits from the sales of a Pontiac would end up with a American Company... Supporting American family's, American Jobs... Bottom line ends up in USA...
21,000 jobs at the factory level being cut, due to the closing of Pontiac. Not to mention all the suppliers that are going to have to lay off workers. Even tire manufactures will be cutting back on workers... no need for that many tires next year no Pontiacs to put them on...

Amen Brother!!!

Besides, I work for one of GM's suppliers, so I understand that all too well....

[rayfin]

No way ! "You've been in the sun too long!!!" No, that sounds like the drivers name, Sun To Long.