New Record in Drag Racing History

[Casey Miles]

I believe that "deep staging" was started at New York National Speedway by Sam Biondo or Phil Montief, because of the one amber light christmas tree. It was almost like a pro tree except with a spot involved. If I'm wrong, I sorry to whom did come up with deep staging.
Casey Miles
248H

[Frito]

Originally Posted by Casey Miles

I believe that "deep staging" was started at New York National Speedway by Sam Biondo or Phil Montief, because of the one amber light christmas tree. It was almost like a pro tree except with a spot involved. If I'm wrong, I sorry to whom did come up with deep staging.
Casey Miles
248H

In 1970 while running a pure stock 4 speed road runner at Riverside Dragstrip in Proctorville, Ohio, I would roll the front wheels just past the stage beam and then BACK in it deep stage or a backward shallow stage. After three weeks of this (and winning) I was told not to do this or be dq. Not for rolling past the stage beam for for delaying the show. I am not saying I was the first just stating what and how I did it!!!!!! No pre stage light or reaction timers back then.

[Lynn A McCarty]

Bret,

I agree with 100% what you said. I am one of your biggest fans. However, repackaging and reselling is a good thing. I dont even like or watch pinks! It doesnt even make sense to me. Yeah they were wrong, but it worked! It proves old things and old decisions are sometimes more successful revisited.

There is nothing cheaper than sugar, flour, and corn, it takes molding them into straws with chocolate to get $8 per pound (of which I refuse to buy the twins).

In my business a chemical company had a new technology called Transport plus which was nothing but a marketing program for what we introduced in the 1960's that was an all synthetic polymer approach instead of using natural occurring substances. However, they sold millions because they actually marketed it and went actively trying to sell it.

Current sanctioning body's refusal to market us is the most embarrassing thing I have seen. I was at Indy and there was no one in the stands except for pit crew and family members. Embarrassing in my book (except going across the scales 10lbs light). I tried to promote Indy as the Door Slammer Nationals, but got no where.

This is why Terry's deal is so important, Alex got 20,000 or so fans without even trying. Nothing will sell if you dont try and sell it. Industry is 20 years behind technology. I know Sers and SSers on TV would be a big hit with the proper promotion. They are way closer to NASCAR something for people to relate.

No one will buy it if it is never promoted or sold. It is why I was trying to do a promotional film at ST Louis a few years ago with an exciting announcer approach. If no one else is going to do it, we need to do it ourselves. Just talking out loud trying to seed a vision of something that needs to happen. We need to put our constructive minds together and promote what we love! I asked Annette that, and she just asks me for the credit card.

[Michael Beard]

When I raced my 2.2L FWD Turismo, the car got tons of attention. Casual at first: "Neat car. Where's the nitrous?" No nitrous. "Oh, turbo car." Nope. 2bbl carb. Boom, swarm of kids around the car, "How do you GO that fast?!"

Cars don't have to be fast or RWD to be fun to watch. *Close* racing is fun to watch, regardless. Larry Munk and I raced at the Dutch one year, and I swear we passed each other three times going down the track! It was like watching Fast & Furious, where we shift 8 times, hit the nitrous 3 times, and keep going faster. LOL

One of my buddies got down to the semis in a 32-car shootout they did Friday night for some of the slower cars at Pinks. He got beat by .017. Had a blast. And oh, BTW, he signed 8 autographs over the weekend alongside his mid 11-sec primered Chevy II.

Scott - welcome!

Disclaimer: I have absolutely no credibility, as I own Mopars, a FWD car, a Crate Motor car, and I know Billy Nees.

[art leong]

Originally Posted by Lynn A McCarty

Bret,

I agree with 100% what you said. I am one of your biggest fans. However, repackaging and reselling is a good thing. I dont even like or watch pinks! It doesnt even make sense to me. Yeah they were wrong, but it worked! It proves old things and old decisions are sometimes more successful revisited.

There is nothing cheaper than sugar, flour, and corn, it takes molding them into straws with chocolate to get $8 per pound (of which I refuse to buy the twins).

In my business a chemical company had a new technology called Transport plus which was nothing but a marketing program for what we introduced in the 1960's that was an all synthetic polymer approach instead of using natural occurring substances. However, they sold millions because they actually marketed it and went actively trying to sell it.

Current sanctioning body's refusal to market us is the most embarrassing thing I have seen. I was at Indy and there was no one in the stands except for pit crew and family members. Embarrassing in my book (except going across the scales 10lbs light). I tried to promote Indy as the Door Slammer Nationals, but got no where.

This is why Terry's deal is so important, Alex got 20,000 or so fans without even trying. Nothing will sell if you dont try and sell it. Industry is 20 years behind technology. I know Sers and SSers on TV would be a big hit with the proper promotion. They are way closer to NASCAR something for people to relate.

No one will buy it if it is never promoted or sold. It is why I was trying to do a promotional film at ST Louis a few years ago with an exciting announcer approach. If no one else is going to do it, we need to do it ourselves. Just talking out loud trying to seed a vision of something that needs to happen. We need to put our constructive minds together and promote what we love! I asked Annette that, and she just asks me for the credit card.

Lynn I agree with the marketing concept.
But a violently oppose just dropping certain classes because one of your organizers doesn't like them.
You are in Divison 3. When Tim Kish goes to a race take a look at how many fans are stopping to take pictures and talk. No offense meant but if you were pitted next to him. I promise many would pass up your car and make a beeline for the Neon. I've seen this with my car and it's a portable slum compared to Tim's.
The announcers always play up my car when I'm in eliminations. And plenty of people like to root for the underdog.

[Michael Beard]

This was pretty awesome!

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Casey Miles

I believe that "deep staging" was started at New York National Speedway by Sam Biondo or Phil Montief, because of the one amber light christmas tree. It was almost like a pro tree except with a spot involved. If I'm wrong, I sorry to whom did come up with deep staging.
Casey Miles
248H

I believe Dave Boertman became noted for Deep Staging back around 1970 with his 69 Chevy. Then even more when racing IHRA with his 1971 Rod Shop Dodges. He was one of the best at it.

[chris3racing]

Mike:

The video you just posted, if you can get past how awsome the race is, look at the stands. The video is being shot from what is considered by NHRA-Z-max as the cheaper seats. You are looking across the track at the "John Force Grandstand". Look down the stands as the camera pans. All of the people jumping up and down and waving, beside the camera person, are on the "cheap seat" side which was also filled.

This is what I have wanted to see since coming back into drag racing and building an "old school" superstocker. The stands were packed, the pit area was packed and the cars were superstock type cars and the people loved it. Speed Channel, Pinks or that guy Rich had noting to do with the response from the people watching these cars go down the track. And what about that wagon? I have noticed the same thing as has been previously mentioned, the only people in the stands at typical races are the family, friends and drivers not racing at the time.