Bob Shaw is a bad man

[Stocker 2]

There is a flaw in the AHFS. When the AHFS was originally written there was no provision put in place to rapidly correct horsepowers that are way out of line. This does not mean there needs to be a way to change horsepower when someone "thinks" it is out of line without actual on track performance data. However once someone blatantly exploits the system, there should be a way to refactor horsepower by committee. Two times of 1.40 or more under the index should allow the committee to set horsepower where they deem it necessary.

[Bob Pagano]

Come on Terry, This is nothing new, Ralph Truppi made a living back in the day by picking combos out of the guide book. When you went to him out came the book and you would know up front if the combo would cut it. Just make sense to look before you leap !

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

I knew you guys would take it wrong......Im just pointing out the inequties of the current system. The combo should have been refactored a long time ago. No one cares at NHRA anymore. As far as Mr. Shaw is concerend he has found these combos for years and it dosent make you a better racer, car builder, engine builder, driver, or what ever to look thru the guide to pick a combo that should be running 3 or 4 classes higher than it currently is running. Its not his fault....hes just playing the game as it currently exists and it proves NOTHING except the combo needs HP and a lot of it..

I think what it proves is there are ways to compete in NHRA, without a big fat wallet. Bob's car might just be the most legal Stocker at Belle Rose.
I think it also proves that you still have to know how to bracket race to win anything meaningful.
There is a system in place to deal with runaway combos. Bob ran up against it this weekend.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by stocker 2

there is a flaw in the ahfs. When the ahfs was originally written there was no provision put in place to rapidly correct horsepowers that are way out of line. This does not mean there needs to be a way to change horsepower when someone "thinks" it is out of line without actual on track performance data. However once someone blatantly exploits the system, there should be a way to refactor horsepower by committee. Two times of 1.40 or more under the index should allow the committee to set horsepower where they deem it necessary.

amen !

[John Kelley]

Bob Shaw is a SMART man !!!
I can't wait to see what combo he puts together next !!!

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by John Kelley

Bob Shaw is a SMART man !!!
I can't wait to see what combo he puts together next !!!

Yes he is.....I never said he was not but how do you think Ron Ortiz and Jack McCarthy not to mention others like Clayton Wright in his 65 Plymouth wagon and others feel when staging against him with thier wagons? Probably kind of how Bruce Noland will feel staged against the blown Ford Mustangs. Its the SYSTEM !

[Paul Sarvas]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

someone who scanns the class guide to find a slug combo that the average stock racer wouldnt race if it was the last car in the world. There are more such combos in the guide and its really not a sign of a good racer. Just someone who uses the system.

Interesting post from a X-TECH MAN. If you consider Mr. Shaw's stocker a slug, when is class car not a slug? When a stocker runs 9 seconds? 10 seconds? 11 seconds? What is the average racer? What is the sign of a good racer from a X-TECH MAN's point of view?

Just wondering.

pS

[Ed Fernandez]

I think Bob should be made to run with the A/C on.And maybe run with Dave Ley,Russ Warnes,Jeff
Teuton and any other FFF of his choice.
Since the CIC race isn't included in the data base the factor will not change,as long as Bob wants to
hide it.
Congratulations on your "Excellent Adventure".

Ed

[Ed Fernandez]

I think Bob should be made to run with the A/C on.And maybe run with Dave Ley,Russ Warnes,Jeff
Teuton and any other FFF of his choice.
Since the CIC race isn't included in the data base the factor will not change,as long as Bob wants to
hide it.
Congratulations on your "Excellent Adventure".

Ed

[Tony Janes]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Yes he is.....I never said he was not but how do you think Ron Ortiz and Jack McCarthy not to mention others like Clayton Wright in his 65 Plymouth wagon and others feel when staging against him with thier wagons? Probably kind of how Bruce Noland will feel staged against the blown Ford Mustangs. Its the SYSTEM !

All the above mentioned have the option to run T/SA. AHFS is a computer generated program that takes the human element out of the equation. Much better than getting horsepower in the staging lanes like sometimes happen in "the good old days"