My First Look at the CJ's

Earle Holt · 03-13-2009, 06:00 PM

The old cars are on their way out? Didn't Bruce's car just get refactored for being too fast within the last two -years? Not bad for a 35+ year-old car!

Look, the argument of new cars being under/over factored has been around since factoring began. You can't just stick your head in the sand and not let new cars into the class.

Bruce Noland · 03-13-2009, 06:21 PM

Dale,
That 427 does not make 700 Horsepower.

Earle,
I got my horsepower the old fashioned way. I earned it!

Earle Holt · 03-13-2009, 06:31 PM

I understand that you worked for years on that combo, but whether you earn it or not, cars still get refactored if they go "too fast." The same concerns were there when the new Firebirds came out and over time they have been brought into line.

Alan Roehrich · 03-13-2009, 06:27 PM

No 427/425 Chevrolet will make 700HP on an honest dyno. If it would, a 427/425 powered car could run at least 9.75 at sea level in A trim. I've seen some fast 427/425 powered cars, but I've never seen one run 9.75 or faster at sea level in A trim.

Stock may need some help, but if you think that the manufacturers are coming to the rescue with altruistic notions in their head, you're sure to be terribly disappointed. They'll bring money alright, and maybe a little attention. Along with plenty of B.S., games, and politics. It'll be everything Stock does not need.

Dale Shannon · 03-13-2009, 06:39 PM

Hey Bruce not to get in a pissing contest with ya, just saying what I here and SEE! I guess we will just wait and see in the near furture. But remember I told you soo. Why has no one commented about getting beat by a bogus slow car?

DaleShannon

Alan Roehrich · 03-13-2009, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale Shannon

Hey Bruce not to get in a pissing contest with ya, just saying what I here and SEE! I guess we will just wait and see in the near furture. But remember I told you soo. Why has no one commented about getting beat by a bogus slow car?

DaleShannon

So, this is supposedly a legal iron head 427/425 on an honest dyno?

Dale Shannon · 03-13-2009, 07:07 PM

Alan, yes and yes, still nobody says its ok to get beat by a bogus slow car.

Dale Shannon

Alan Roehrich · 03-13-2009, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale Shannon

Alan, yes and yes, still nobody says its ok to get beat by a bogus slow car.

Dale Shannon

Congratulate him, he's got at least 75HP on anyone I know of, and I know quite a few 427/425 people, and he's got well over a hundred on us. I look forward to seeing him go a 9.75 at sea level and A weight. If he proves he's got 700HP, we'll all get 3% the next Tuesday, even if he's running in AA.

Bogus is bogus, win lose or draw. A bogus car on the ladder affects every other car.

Larry Hill · 03-13-2009, 08:21 PM

Dale good to know that you are alive and kicking.

Colin, I am like you; Im always enthusiastic to race a Ford. I dont beat them often, but still like to race them.

Ken Ken Ken you know one thing about me, I leave nothing in the trailer. What Parts????

03-13-2009, 06:00 PM	#1
Earle Holt Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 194 Likes: 1 Liked 4 Times in 1 Post	Re: My First Look at the CJ's The old cars are on their way out? Didn't Bruce's car just get refactored for being too fast within the last two -years? Not bad for a 35+ year-old car! Look, the argument of new cars being under/over factored has been around since factoring began. You can't just stick your head in the sand and not let new cars into the class. __________________ Earle Holt 1055 Stock

03-13-2009, 06:21 PM	#2
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: My First Look at the CJ's Dale, That 427 does not make 700 Horsepower. Earle, I got my horsepower the old fashioned way. I earned it! __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

03-13-2009, 06:31 PM	#3
Earle Holt Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 194 Likes: 1 Liked 4 Times in 1 Post	Re: My First Look at the CJ's I understand that you worked for years on that combo, but whether you earn it or not, cars still get refactored if they go "too fast." The same concerns were there when the new Firebirds came out and over time they have been brought into line. __________________ Earle Holt 1055 Stock

03-13-2009, 06:27 PM	#4
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,118 Likes: 1,576 Liked 1,837 Times in 417 Posts	Re: My First Look at the CJ's No 427/425 Chevrolet will make 700HP on an honest dyno. If it would, a 427/425 powered car could run at least 9.75 at sea level in A trim. I've seen some fast 427/425 powered cars, but I've never seen one run 9.75 or faster at sea level in A trim. Stock may need some help, but if you think that the manufacturers are coming to the rescue with altruistic notions in their head, you're sure to be terribly disappointed. They'll bring money alright, and maybe a little attention. Along with plenty of B.S., games, and politics. It'll be everything Stock does not need. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

03-13-2009, 06:39 PM	#5
Dale Shannon Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Denver NC Posts: 74 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: My First Look at the CJ's Hey Bruce not to get in a pissing contest with ya, just saying what I here and SEE! I guess we will just wait and see in the near furture. But remember I told you soo. Why has no one commented about getting beat by a bogus slow car? DaleShannon

03-13-2009, 07:07 PM	#7
Dale Shannon Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Denver NC Posts: 74 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: My First Look at the CJ's Alan, yes and yes, still nobody says its ok to get beat by a bogus slow car. Dale Shannon

03-13-2009, 08:21 PM	#9
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,648 Likes: 1,941 Liked 10,753 Times in 2,236 Posts	Re: My First Look at the CJ's Dale good to know that you are alive and kicking. Colin, I am like you; Im always enthusiastic to race a Ford. I dont beat them often, but still like to race them. Ken Ken Ken you know one thing about me, I leave nothing in the trailer. What Parts???? __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

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