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The prostockers of the day are no farther out there than the 9 second stockers that are faster than the original prostockers on onlly 9 inch tires
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Where are you coming up with these figures?? I run EFI on my Super Stocker and have nowhere near that much spent on my system!! And I don't think the Pro Stock systems would be that much different!
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You looks to as if you don't read well! As I said in earlier posts Actual IRL and Rolex Daytona Prototypes. Two different series and real life experience. Not Stock or Super Stock! Real budgets to do these programs and writing the Purchase orders to pay for them. You can do your Super Stocker for a lot less BUT until regulated this Pro Stock to Spec ECU, Injectors and Throtle Body the sky is the limit. Just go and price the Bosch or PacTel type systems out. |
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I'm biased but I would prefer Top Stock or a SS/AH shootout to today's Pro Stock show. Back in the day I loved Pro Stock, but now it has become a joke. It just seems to me that everything NHRA touches eventually becomes almost laughable. But, that's another story.
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Todays pro-stock cars bear basically NO resemblence to the vehicle their supposed to represent.That's not to say they can't but they already had that class, the "imports" front wheel drive 4-5-6 cyls. with "hair dryers" on them, I believe I've heard that class no longer exists. People don't really care that the Cobalt prostocker doesn't look like theirs sitting in their driveway, they are there to watch the heads up racing that they can somehow identify with because they announced " the Cobalt versus the GXP". When you tell people something long enough they WILL start to believe it even if they know it's not real. As far as the $ figures being thrown around, Yes racers being racers I'm sure many would look for some sort of way to gain an advantage no matter what the cost.The santioning bodies would have to issue strict specs for what could be used, which properly done would probably wind up saving most teams money in the end. I've never heard any numbers on what a team spends just on carbs but I'm sure it's quite high. As for the hood scoops what the heck Detoits been putting them on cars for years, yes not as big and mostly not functional but still a way of saying factory muscle, as with most things the racers have pushed it to it's limits. Don't like the scoops.... race Stock. Joe
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I'm with you, Joe. In what other heads-up catory is racing that close? To contain costs NHRA would simply have to have an aproved list of ECUs, just like they do the MSD boxes. They could also, if they think somebody has modified one, do what they did the MSD boxes. They would bring one to the racer and require them to swap units with them. As close as Pro Stock racing is now, why would they want to change it?
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First, the list of "approved" EMS should have price CAP of $2,000.00 USD MAX.
A rule is needed for ALL cars in current racing, today ! A "clamer" rule could work here with each "cal" erased. A well calibrated engine will last longer, run cleaner. This effect can REDUCE to cost of racing, a truth found by "off-road" racers. Lance |
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And, my friend Mike Edwards was runner-up tonight. Good job Mike!!
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I would love to see to them moving towards the newer technology, fuel injection, dual over head cam 4v heads ect. At some point NHRA will have to deal with the next generation of fans.
I am 27 been racing and messing with car since I could drive, I love watching NHRA racing but there is a major disconnect between my generation of racing and what NHRA offers. Is the current PS technology fascinating? Yes, but there is a huge void since 99 percent of current engines used by my generation to race share very little with the basics of current PS and V8's in general. I know that NHRA has it fundamental roots and rules, but at some point the disconnect between what fascinates current young racers (programmable EFI, Dual over cams, 4v heads, individual throttle bodies, variable valve timing, ect) will leave NHRA with a suffering fan base due to there being no connection to pushrods and carburetors. Stuff that the new generation of racers need to go to the junk yard to even see or take apart. By the looks of the last couple NHRA races the stands are getting grayer, as some point their has to be a outreach and some changes to bridge the gap to my generation.
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