The Fall f the United States, The End

[Dick Nearhoof]

Originally Posted by Fireofficer74

Did the orange one say that, cause it sounds like his quote.

You really should get to a hospital as quickly as possible and have a scan done of your head to see if there is any brain matter leaft SMFH

[Eddies66]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

WRONG. The Trump tax cuts created RECORD tax revenue for the federal government, through at least the first year of the Biden crime spree, err, administration, and at least well into the second, despite the pandemic, that the tax payers paid for in advance, with the government illegally funding gain of function research in Wuhan. Interesting the timing of it "escaping" from that lab. And let's not forget that the democrats gleefully jumped on board for all of the "pandemic" spending, and continued it well into 2023, long after Trump left office.

The theory of supply-side economics says the growth from tax cuts is enough to replace the tax revenue lost if the tax rate is above 50% of income. When tax rates are lower, the cuts worsen the national debt without boosting growth enough to replace lost revenue. Reagan and Trump used it and both increased the national debt. Under Trump (2015-2020) the Debt to GDP ratio went from 100% to 129%

[SStockDart]

Biden! "God save the Queen"
This guy belongs in a nursing home.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Eddies66

The theory of supply-side economics says the growth from tax cuts is enough to replace the tax revenue lost if the tax rate is above 50% of income. When tax rates are lower, the cuts worsen the national debt without boosting growth enough to replace lost revenue. Reagan and Trump used it and both increased the national debt. Under Trump (2015-2020) the Debt to GDP ratio went from 100% to 129%

Still wrong. Record revenue is record revenue. The tax cuts created record revenue. If spending outpaces that record revenue, it's the spending that causes debt, not the tax cuts. And spending outpaced revenue, in both cases. It does not matter how high tax rates or revenue are, if spending outpaces the revenue. And in the modern era, it almost always does.


Spending is a problem for both sides. Almost the entire debt can be attributed to the entitlements created by the "war on poverty", which is an abject failure. People cannot be bought out of poverty. Like lottery winners, people who get free money to buy them out of poverty are broke again almost immediately. They're not broke because they can't make money, they're broke because they won't make money and won't manage money.

[SStockDart]

Talk about spending.....January 2022 thru January 2023, Bidens and friends have contributed $46.6bn to the Ukraine war effort. Walmart, the world's largest retailer paid $7.72bn in taxes. (I'm not saying that amount is good or bad) So, we have given Ukraine 6 times the US tax income from our largest retailer. Doesn't sound very smart to me.

[Mark Yacavone]

What, 247 years now? I figure we're on borrowed time as far as great civilizations go..
When the politicians figure out that they can buy votes by transferring money from those who earn it to those that don't or won't, that's the the beginning of the death spiral, sorry to say.

[Mike Jones]

250 years is a great run for a nation. There have been few that went longer.
In school, I never understood how a nation with military might and all the money, could fail. It's happening right before my very eyes!

[Carguy49]

There have been 4 shootings/deaths, that I know of, this last weekend in the Pacific Northwest.

One at a restaurant in Redmond Washington, One at the Alderwood Mall near Lynwood, Washington, One at the Safeway just 3 miles from my home, and one at The Gorge, an outdoor amphitheater near George, Washington, actually at the campground near the venue. I am sure there many more and I am sure that you all could relate more that are close to you.

WHAT is going on in this country that I LOVE????? I FEAR for the worst, but PRAY DAILY for the best. May God help this country before it is too late.

It is going to take a MIRACLE and when we all unite and PRAY it will happen.

[Mike Pearson]

Originally Posted by Eddies66

Jim, I can’t bring myself to labeling strong Conservatives as fascist or Liberals as communists. The radical side of both of these parties is repulsive to me.

My time in the Corps I not only safe guarded classified material at two American Embassies. I have held a TS clearance with CNWDI access, had a CMS account that held two man control SAS/PAL. I have authenticated EAMs on a monthly basis. As Security Manager/ Special Weapons Officer, I have trained personnel and received two NWAI and two NTPI inspections with no discrepancies noted. When I see what happened of late makes me wonder what damage to national security has taken place. Did you ever see classified material store in anything less that a Class 6 safe?

Personally i have never seen or handled any top secret documents. My dad was a nuclear physicist and worked his whole career on the nuclear weapons program for the government. He had top secret clearance for all of the nuclear weapons sites around the country and maybe some we didnt know of. When I was young I knew where my dad worked but we had no idea what he did at the plant near where we lived. They were forbidden to tell anyone what was done at the plant. I was in my 20s when he was finally able to tell us what he had been working on all those years and we were able to tour the plant and see where he worked. He continued to work there until the DOE turned the plant over to Martin Marrietta. He retired at that point from General Electric that ran the plant for the DOE. Then was hired by Martin Marrietta and worked for them in a similar capacity for several more years then full retirement after that.

All that being said my dad was middle of the road politically. He would vote for who he thought was the best leader at the time. Sometimes he would vote for a republican but mosty leaned toward the democrats. I can tell you if he was alive today he would be appalled at what the goverment has turned into. All of this woke crap and LBGTQ would have really angered him. He was very opinionated and I really wish i could gear what he would have to say about the direction of the country. I can tell you he would not be a supporter of either Trump or Biden.
My dad was a veteran of the Korean war. During his time in the army he was stationed in Germany duing the war.
He passed away 10 years ago from complications due to a severe stroke. That day we lost a great father.

[Mike Jones]

Originally Posted by Carguy49

WHAT is going on in this country that I LOVE?????

It is a diabolical, Moral and Social deconstruct.