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Old 07-26-2022, 08:14 AM   #11
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Default Re: Class Racer Nationals - The Future

Thanks for all of your effort to put on a great race for Stock and Super stock.

Maybe try to move the race to a different track more centralized. Numidia is way up in the NE corner. Now that you live in NC maybe try Galot or Reynolds. Lots of racers with in 500 miles of those two tracks. Atlanta would have been a perfect location but we all know that is gone.
No way I can go to Numidia. 1000 mile tow for me but I would do 500 miles for sure.

My ideas from the other thread.
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These type of races are the future and they will succeed! Just give them a little time people will start coming!! Thanks for all who put these races on its what we need !!

They will never replace NHRA races, they are just an alternative. And the fact that 2 or 3 times the amount of Stock and Super stock cars will be at Atco racing for a 1/3 of rhe money, it shows people still love going to NHRA sanctioned races, whatever their reason.
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Old 07-26-2022, 09:52 AM   #13
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Ken,
I applauded Tim, You & Teams efforts on keeping this event rolling, getting the sponsors that you did when times are rough for many. I mean in the 3 years you guys have run it; you've faced a lot of challenges (Covid 2020 & 2021 & Gas Prices in 2022). Like we chatted about after the finals of the D1 race, I wish we all had the answers as to why people don't support it but, from what I have seen over 11 years of being a .90 president is timing and location. Numidia is a track to get people there you have to offer them a big package, all I ever hear about it the TOW, THE HILLS but, once we are there the place is awesome...lol. I really think if NHRA does the double (T&T Wed, Thurs & Fri Open and D1 Race Sat & Sun) the weekend before would be great to grab if you can...Not sure if you can grab Dave's ear to get a preview of the D1 schedule. I think people will spend the weekend at the CR Nats, take 2 days to explore the area because there is a lot to see and do and then come back and run the D1 events, making it a mini-vacation to race and please the wife also. I am not sure if moving it to another track will help because I'll be honest with all the prices going up, track rentals are through the roof right now (I just started to get quotes for 2023 and most tracks have doubled over 2022) because of everything they have to cover in a weekend, Ambulance, Insurance, Staff, Glue, etc, etc....and Numidia is one of the cheaper places around to host an event so moving it to a Galot of VMP sounds great but, will you have the support to cover the 25-35k rental fee for the weekend and not lose your shorts because moving it there will probably delete some of the D1 races from up north....it's a catch 22 for sure.

I've been going there since Big Bob took over the place with the SG Series (2007) and I can tell you a quick story:

First year we went up there with the MASGA group (Pre MA .90 Series) and Pete Luciano was running it, we had 16 cars show up, Bob also threw up a $5,000 to win Bracket Race that night. The pits were bare, and I scratched my head with "how is this guy going to survive with no cars". I think the payout for SG was like $600 to win, Bob comes rolling over on the Kabota at the BBQ and asked who won? George Smith raises his hand says I did, Bob reaches into his pocket pulls $400 out and says here "I told you if you guys came up here, I'd pay $1,000 to win so tell all your friends to be here next year". So the bracket race starts and if there was 30 cars total that was a lot (10 of them were SG Cars running brackets), they did like 4 rounds of buybacks but, Bob guaranteed the $5k to win when most track owners would have been slashing the purse, trying to make deals. I knew then Bob was the real deal and I love sitting down and chatting with him whenever I get the chance to visit up there. I just wanted to put that out there that Bob is the real deal and a great guy....just have some big stones though cause he knows how to bust them but, he does it in a funny way.
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Old 07-26-2022, 09:58 AM   #14
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There are plenty of Stock and Super Stock cars within 4 hours of Numidia. I'd like to see more at this race. I know quite a few racers that had other commitments this year. Hope to see more next year. Thanks to all who supported the CRN. Special congratulations to Ann Towes! Fastest Grandmother in Division 1. LOL
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Old 07-26-2022, 10:51 AM   #15
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I would not make any decision based on this years car count. The economy is very bad and the price of diesel fuel is sky high. I would love to go to that race, even with it being almost 900 miles one way. With fuel at $5 a gallon I would have to spend between $1600-1900 just in fuel when you count the generator running also. I think the majority of people are running Divisionals that are close to home(chasing points). Until the economy turns around I do not think your races are viable on a financial point. We all have cars that we built for NHRA class racing. So NHRA is the main course and races like yours are truly a dessert. And who doesn't love dessert. But....if the main course has maxed your budget then most people will forgo dessert. Just my 2 cents.
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Old 07-26-2022, 04:21 PM   #16
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Ken, Timothy, Class Racer Staff and Numidia Dragway, THANK YOU, First year I was there and had a great time obviously the $$$ always helps. I appreciated the test run you guys gave us Saturday Morning helped me out with wanting to test some stuff. All in All had a great time racing, was hard, good drivers, great cars and we didn't sit around forever waiting on them to call us. You could get into a nice groove, track was good for me even with the heat and sun.
For me I didn't mind the combination of STK/SS for the good payout. All in All good time Thank you again. Looking forward to more Class Racer Nationals and big $$$$ STK/SS races
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Old 07-26-2022, 09:18 PM   #17
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My son and I have attended this event the last two years and we have enjoyed it immensely. I must thank everyone that has made this event possible.
I have read a number of threads that NHRA has not done a good job of taking care of their class racers. So when someone goes above and beyond to put together an event as great as this event I feel obligated to attend. I must say that I was very disappointed that more class racers didn't come out to support this event. We all must attend if we want events like this to continue.
Again, thank you Ken, and everyone that made this great event possible.
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Old 07-26-2022, 11:42 PM   #18
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Might want to glance through this older thread below, when you get a chance.

MJ and a few others make a valid point.
That is, that without the big NHRA tent, the association and independent races would eventually fold or drastically change.Without tech, teardowns, and HP factoring , the next casualty would be heads up runs in the eliminator. How many would fold, at that point? How many would stay, and still support these races? Then what?


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Numidia PA almost 1500 miles away.
I wish we had at least a couple non NHRA Stk S/Stk events in D4
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Numidia PA almost 1500 miles away.
I wish we had at least a couple non NHRA Stk S/Stk events in D4
RJ and a few others talked about starting a combo deal in Texas a few years back.Whatever became of that?
Hope I'm not going off track here, but I think we're trying to promote the independent "attitude" here ;-)
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