Preliminary NMCA Stock/Super Stock (S3)Compo Rules 2017

[Jeff Niceswanger]

So ...you run your car within 1 tenth of flat out in TT... Then you have that tenth in the bank for a heads- up runs .. correct ?...Interesting

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Jeff Niceswanger

So ...you run your car within 1 tenth of flat out in TT... Then you have that tenth in the bank for a heads- up runs .. correct ?...Interesting

Jeff, Not sure you are reading it like I am.

Here's what I see:

One A/SA goes 10.60
Another one goes 10.50.
They meet..The dial-in is 10.40.
The slower one goes 10.50 ,with a good light.
The other one goes 10.39. He loses.
Brake (break) -out in effect.

[MR DERBY CITY]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Jeff, Not sure you are reading it like I am.

Here's what I see:

One A/SA goes 10.60
Another one goes 10.50.
They meet..The dial-in is 10.40.
The slower one goes 10.50 ,with a good light.
The other one goes 10.39. He loses.
Brake (break) -out in effect.

Mark is correct, as usual....Personally I have never heard of anything like this ?? Just wondering where this comes from ?

[HandOverFist]

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

Mark is correct, as usual....Personally I have never heard of anything like this ?? Just wondering where this comes from ?

Probably to discourage heavy braking at the stripe and sandbagging during qualifying.

[Chuck Norton]

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

Mark is correct, as usual....Personally I have never heard of anything like this ?? Just wondering where this comes from ?

My recollections of the dark, dim past of Stock racing suggest that there was once a time when the dial-in for every car was the national record BUT we were allowed to run a dime under the record without breaking out. I'll bet that Mark remembers those days (unless the whole scenario was the result of that extra shot of Jack from last night). It may seem to be an archaic methodology but we had some good racing without all the drama of 1000' shutoffs, packing in extra weight, and sandbagging the ladder.

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[ALMACK]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Jeff, Not sure you are reading it like I am.

Here's what I see:

One A/SA goes 10.60
Another one goes 10.50.
They meet..The dial-in is 10.40.
The slower one goes 10.50 ,with a good light.
The other one goes 10.39. He loses.
Brake (break) -out in effect.

Thanks for posted that Mark

[Bob Don]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Jeff, Not sure you are reading it like I am.

Here's what I see:

One A/SA goes 10.60
Another one goes 10.50.
They meet..The dial-in is 10.40.
The slower one goes 10.50 ,with a good light.
The other one goes 10.39. He loses.
Brake (break) -out in effect.

Why not just run heads up with no breakout?

[ALMACK]

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

Mark is correct, as usual....Personally I have never heard of anything like this ?? Just wondering where this comes from ?

Sounds like a "no-sandbagging during qualifying" rule to me.
I also see it being confusing to some racers.

It might somewhat alter the qualifying strategy for some racers, or then again it may not.

Will the fastest in class still qualify using full throttle knowing he has everyone else covered, and that there is no way he would run 1 tenth quicker during eliminations so therefore he can run flat out during eliminations ( in a same class pairing) and not worry about breaking out ?
I say probably.

That's the way I see it

[Jim Bailey]

My recommendation would be to use IHRA Classes and Indexes. You'll solve about 75% of problems, in advance, keeping the Older Carburetor cars separated from the Newer Fuel Injected cars. I would also combine sticks and autos into the same class.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Bob Don

Why not just run heads up with no breakout?

Bob, I believe they are trying to keep performance as a major factor, but at the same time, giving the good drivers a chance to survive such a situation.
People are still going to hold a bit back, as they do now.

Actually, It's not a bad system, IMHO .Whoever thought it up deserves credit for thinking outside of the box.
Relax, some of you. I'm not advocating that NHRA should adopt this system.