HOME FORUM RULES CONTACT
     
   
   

Go Back   CLASS RACER FORUM > Class Racer Forums > Stock and Super Stock
Register Photo Gallery FAQ Community Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-04-2013, 10:45 PM   #1
Ed Carpenter
Live Reporter
 
Ed Carpenter's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Dripping Springs, Tx
Posts: 2,709
Likes: 186
Liked 520 Times in 132 Posts
Default New HP Numbers after Indy

Horsepower adjustments following the Chevrolet Performance U.S. Nationals


As the result of runs under the Automatic Horsepower Factoring System (AHFS) 1.20-second under policy at the Chevrolet Performance U.S. Nationals, the following changes have been made.



The horsepower rating for 1978 Ford Mustang II, entries with the 302 cubic inch engine and a factory rating of 139 currently rated at 139 has been increased by sixteen horsepower, to 155 horsepower; for Stock Eliminator.



The horsepower rating for 2010 Ford Mustang Cobra Jet, entries with the 330 cubic inch engine and a factory rating of 500 currently rated at 609, has been increased by twenty six horsepower, to 636 horsepower; for Super Stock Eliminator.



The horsepower rating for 2012 Ford Mustang Cobra Jet, entries with the 330 cubic inch engine and a factory rating of 510 currently rated at 588, has been increased by twenty horsepower, to 608 horsepower; for Super Stock Eliminator



NHRA's 2013 Automatic Horsepower Factoring System outlines that any run of 1.20-seconds or more under the index will receive an immediate index decrease or horsepower increase. These changes are effective Sep. 3, 2013.

Return to Updates
__________________
Ed Carpenter
2005 Chevy Cobalt A/SM
Race Engine Development
Ed Carpenter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2013, 08:08 AM   #2
Billy Nees
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: On a hilltop in Pa.
Posts: 4,485
Likes: 3,587
Liked 7,682 Times in 1,730 Posts
Default Re: New HP Numbers after Indy

so let's refresh,
8/7/13, HP correction adjustment announced, including 72-82 302 FFFords.
8/9/13, HP correction adjustment reconsideration, including 72-82 302 FFFords.
9/4/13, HP adjustments after Indy, including 78 302 FFFord.

To recap, on 8/7 the 78 302 FFFord( current R/S and T/S National Record Holder AND fastest run by a Stocker so far in 2013 as per Nitro Joes) receives a HP reduction from 162 to 139(23HP!!!).
On 8/9 the same FFFord has it's 23 HP reduction rescinded as per AHFS and Tech Department rethink.
On 9/4 the same FFFord qualifies #1 at Indy but in U/S as it's HP reduction that was rescinded before Indy was re-recinded at Indy(???) and it's 162 factor that was 139 HP before it was 162 HP is NOW 155 HP based on 139 HP??

While I'm on the subject, can anybody explain the Buick screw-up from Indy or the AMC parts that NHRA removed from the guide but they're still allowed to use?

Dear NHRA, I love this sport but I can no longer trust your Blueprint Specs or your Classification Guide and that is very troubleing to me.
You have a "loose cannon" running around the "Ivory Tower" doing whatever seems to suit him without any consideration for rules or how this "loose cannons" actions affects the NHRAs Racers and dues paying Members. Please fix this.
__________________
Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS

I'm not spending 100K to win 2K
Billy Nees is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2013, 08:44 AM   #3
Stocker 2
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 137
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default Re: New HP Numbers after Indy

Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Nees View Post
Dear NHRA, I love this sport but I can no longer trust your Blueprint Specs or your Classification Guide and that is very troubleing to me.
You have a "loose cannon" running around the "Ivory Tower" doing whatever seems to suit him without any consideration for rules or how this "loose cannons" actions affects the NHRAs Racers and dues paying Members. Please fix this.
The bottom of the 78 Mustang section in the class guide is signed 9-3-13 PC. Does that mean PC is the "loose cannon" you referred to?
Stocker 2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2013, 08:52 AM   #4
Billy Nees
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: On a hilltop in Pa.
Posts: 4,485
Likes: 3,587
Liked 7,682 Times in 1,730 Posts
Default Re: New HP Numbers after Indy

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stocker 2 View Post
The bottom of the 78 Mustang section in the class guide is signed 9-3-13 PC. Does that mean PC is the "loose cannon" you referred to?
If the shoe fits.......
__________________
Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS

I'm not spending 100K to win 2K
Billy Nees is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2013, 11:18 AM   #5
Tony Janes
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Whittier, Ca
Posts: 830
Likes: 86
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Default Re: New HP Numbers after Indy

I do not think that the 72 to 82 Fords are going to go back. They have been there to long and have been run at a national meet at the lower horsepower. The guide was never changed, even after all the complaints. The guide trumps any thing else. I would say to NHRA you made a mistake leave it there but do not do it again.
__________________
Tony Janes 7941 STK, SS
Tony Janes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2013, 11:33 AM   #6
Dave Casey
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Hampden, MA
Posts: 1,201
Likes: 233
Liked 773 Times in 164 Posts
Default Re: New HP Numbers after Indy

"While I'm on the subject, can anybody explain the Buick screw-up from Indy or the AMC parts that NHRA removed from the guide but they're still allowed to use?"

What happened with a Buick ? did not hear about that one

The AMC guys get to use the parts until the end of the year is what I heard ,,True ?
__________________
Dave Casey 1330 STK
Dave Casey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2013, 12:18 PM   #7
Billy Nees
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: On a hilltop in Pa.
Posts: 4,485
Likes: 3,587
Liked 7,682 Times in 1,730 Posts
Default Re: New HP Numbers after Indy

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Janes View Post
I do not think that the 72 to 82 Fords are going to go back. They have been there to long and have been run at a national meet at the lower horsepower.
Tony, you are mistaken.
__________________
Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS

I'm not spending 100K to win 2K
Billy Nees is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2013, 12:32 PM   #8
Tony Janes
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Whittier, Ca
Posts: 830
Likes: 86
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Default Re: New HP Numbers after Indy

People have opinions, I stand my mine.
__________________
Tony Janes 7941 STK, SS
Tony Janes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2013, 01:04 PM   #9
dartman
Member
 
dartman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: N.S. CANADA
Posts: 498
Likes: 158
Liked 68 Times in 41 Posts
Question Re: New HP Numbers after Indy

why don't the factory shoot out cars get hp.they are racing in stock .qualifying at the top,they where on the ladder,running in eliminations.going 1.20 plus under.
__________________
1231 FS/D Drag Pak
1231 E/SA 71 Demon
Kelly MacKay

Last edited by dartman; 09-05-2013 at 08:04 PM.
dartman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2013, 01:13 PM   #10
Tony Janes
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Whittier, Ca
Posts: 830
Likes: 86
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Default Re: New HP Numbers after Indy

The Factory shoot out cars do not have a class that is in the guide. Seems to be an Indy only class.
__________________
Tony Janes 7941 STK, SS
Tony Janes is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:43 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright Class Racer.com. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners.