"Racing is killing Drag Racing" - Page 2

Michael Beard · 08-20-2013, 08:46 PM

......Pro Stock.....

"There, I Fixed It."

Tracy Robbins · 08-20-2013, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by chris3racing

Go to Competition Plus and read the arrival by Job Asher. I know some of you are not fans of his but this will hit home. NHRA Pro Show is coming to an end. All of the big money is leaving. Castrol just announced it is leaving John Force Pro Drag Racing next year. If Super Stock can put away the stripe racing and get to attracting spectators instead of turning them off it could be "the way it
was" with a couple of funny cars or dragsters being only for show. Get ready change is coming.

I don't think you will ever see it go back to the way it was, however, w/ the new copo camaro, challengers, and cobra jets they appear more like old school pro stock to me!

chris3racing · 08-20-2013, 08:51 PM

Do you remember when we had the night time match races at Capital Raceway and jungal Jim and the Chitown were part of the show Jungle would do the fire burn out an the next pair Chitown would do a full track burnout. That was followed by the Super Stock match races.

Yes, and the same thing can happen, the love of money and contracts killed that too. I understand all to well that as long as two people have a car there will be a race.

chris3racing · 08-20-2013, 08:55 PM

Yes, Tracy they will be making an announcement soon that 2014 will be the end with John Force Racing. Arons is also pulling out.

bigshow2966 · 08-21-2013, 10:58 AM

The issue as I see it is that there are just too many national events. Back in the old days there were 4-5 nationals a year, TV coverage was weeks delayed on Wide World of Sports, and the teams could make a living match racing.

Now, with 23+ national events, same day TV coverage, and instant internet results, match racing is dead.

Travel expenses alone are out of sight for the teams, and people don't need to go to a local track to see their hero anymore.

Racing is a victim of it's own success/excess.

Force may only be able to bring 2 cars and 5 transporters now.

rx dealer · 08-21-2013, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Beard

Oh yes!! Paul Mercure check mate Camaro running top stock with L.S pharmacy on the quarter panel!!...Paul and I always talk about how much we miss Top Stock...Thanks Michael...

Luke

Jim Bailey · 08-21-2013, 09:14 PM

Just for starters .......Real Drag Racing is a quarter mile ...1320 feet... ( NFL Football is 100 yards. Arena Football is less than 100 yards ) ....need I say more. JB

cutta · 08-21-2013, 09:46 PM

Am I the only one here that actually watches racing for the racing itself?

My problem is that the author is challenging racers to trade performance for entertainment. I disagree with that completely. I never watched or got into racing for match racing, showy burnouts, or people wamping the throttles ten times over. It interested me because of all the technical aspects that combine to make the runs we see so great. I've never been excited for wrecks, explosions, or bumper wheelstands where the car is off the ground completely. I do however get excited seeing record breaking runs, close racing, and full tilt NA motors as seen in Pro Stock, Comp, and Super Stock. His article just doesn't hit home for me because as a racer, I would never give up a performance gain just to put on a show, I want to win, set records, collect tropies, and have fun while constantly working on my junk to go faster.

Dick Butler · 08-21-2013, 10:06 PM

TOP/Stk and TOP/SS were a great breath of fresh air but never got the time in front of spectators, or the promotion from the towers to inform people watching. The Racers Love it and would do it again in a heart beat if allowed or invited. I have not seen the Norwalk show but it must have been great.
Big money cannot keep backing a full year of Millionaires and their excesses forever. It will come back to basic people running basic machines. The new SS cars will be too extreme also.

black88coupe · 08-22-2013, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by michael beard

love it!!!

08-20-2013, 08:46 PM	#11
Michael Beard VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,060 Likes: 0 Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Re: "Racing is killing Drag Racing" ......Pro Stock..... "There, I Fixed It." __________________ Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS

08-20-2013, 08:51 PM	#13
chris3racing Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 528 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: "Racing is killing Drag Racing" Do you remember when we had the night time match races at Capital Raceway and jungal Jim and the Chitown were part of the show Jungle would do the fire burn out an the next pair Chitown would do a full track burnout. That was followed by the Super Stock match races. Yes, and the same thing can happen, the love of money and contracts killed that too. I understand all to well that as long as two people have a car there will be a race.

08-20-2013, 08:55 PM	#14
chris3racing Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 528 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: "Racing is killing Drag Racing" Yes, Tracy they will be making an announcement soon that 2014 will be the end with John Force Racing. Arons is also pulling out.

08-21-2013, 10:58 AM	#15
bigshow2966 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: chicago Posts: 654 Likes: 671 Liked 180 Times in 55 Posts	Re: "Racing is killing Drag Racing" The issue as I see it is that there are just too many national events. Back in the old days there were 4-5 nationals a year, TV coverage was weeks delayed on Wide World of Sports, and the teams could make a living match racing. Now, with 23+ national events, same day TV coverage, and instant internet results, match racing is dead. Travel expenses alone are out of sight for the teams, and people don't need to go to a local track to see their hero anymore. Racing is a victim of it's own success/excess. Force may only be able to bring 2 cars and 5 transporters now.

08-21-2013, 09:14 PM	#17
Jim Bailey Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 674 Likes: 15 Liked 584 Times in 94 Posts	Re: "Racing is killing Drag Racing" Just for starters .......Real Drag Racing is a quarter mile ...1320 feet... ( NFL Football is 100 yards. Arena Football is less than 100 yards ) ....need I say more. JB

08-21-2013, 09:46 PM	#18
cutta Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 347 Likes: 0 Liked 5 Times in 2 Posts	Re: "Racing is killing Drag Racing" Am I the only one here that actually watches racing for the racing itself? My problem is that the author is challenging racers to trade performance for entertainment. I disagree with that completely. I never watched or got into racing for match racing, showy burnouts, or people wamping the throttles ten times over. It interested me because of all the technical aspects that combine to make the runs we see so great. I've never been excited for wrecks, explosions, or bumper wheelstands where the car is off the ground completely. I do however get excited seeing record breaking runs, close racing, and full tilt NA motors as seen in Pro Stock, Comp, and Super Stock. His article just doesn't hit home for me because as a racer, I would never give up a performance gain just to put on a show, I want to win, set records, collect tropies, and have fun while constantly working on my junk to go faster. __________________ Adriel Paradise, Paradise Racing Team Driver/Crew Chief(at least my dad claims me to be) B.S. Mechanical Engineering, University of Arkansas

08-21-2013, 10:06 PM	#19
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: "Racing is killing Drag Racing" TOP/Stk and TOP/SS were a great breath of fresh air but never got the time in front of spectators, or the promotion from the towers to inform people watching. The Racers Love it and would do it again in a heart beat if allowed or invited. I have not seen the Norwalk show but it must have been great. Big money cannot keep backing a full year of Millionaires and their excesses forever. It will come back to basic people running basic machines. The new SS cars will be too extreme also.